John Lofgren (Speedway)
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Actually soaked these and the Badalassi in warm water. Was bored and annoyed with the excess (imo) toe box and instep leather. They indeed shrunk up and look better IMHO. Toe box is perfect. Finally determined with a sole of such a height combined with the minimal toe box space in the engineer, even half soles weren't for me and these work great without an insole…once they're broken in and the toe bed conforms to the foot. Couldn't even fit my foot in the toe box with an insole now. Just perfectly laid on the foot thereafter. Look pretty good with the XHSib.
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thanks for the answer Tom!
you guys really making it hard as feck to find my way into the world of engineer boots though and what pair to get as "the first"
(angry in a positive way that is!) 
White's, Viberg, Wesco, Lofgren, Mister Freedom…god damn it ain't easy! ^^
Agreed, I like the wescos for the black fire leather and think they might be a bit more rugged than the lofgrens so my thinking was that they will serve a great looking purpose in the winter and bad weather as well as allowing be to keep one boot a solid black for a more "dress" look I suppose. I can't wait to get my lofgrens looking like VEB's.
well which one are you talking about?
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Actually soaked these and the Badalassi in warm water. Was bored and annoyed with the excess (imo) toe box and instep leather. They indeed shrunk up and look better IMHO. Toe box is perfect. Finally determined with a sole of such a height combined with the minimal toe box space in the engineer, even half soles weren't for me and these work great without an insole…once they're broken in and the toe bed conforms to the foot. Couldn't even fit my foot in the toe box with an insole now. Just perfectly laid on the foot thereafter. Look pretty good with the XHSib.
I’m confused. You say excessive toe box leather but also limited toebox space. Seems contradictory.?
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@Bfd70 Sorry not to fawn. These boots are worn for like yard work, playing Siegfried and Roy with my tree rats , manly shit. It's a weird boot/last as other's have indicated. Hard to get on yet the instep is sloppy leading to the inevitable insole(s) fix then with the horween the toe box/instep stretched out with the volume increase imho. Didn't experience this so much with the Badalassi. Still love em though. The S&S horsehide version is dope AF. Would I buy them for full price knowing how these two fit? Not a chance. True story. Hope this helps others.
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just received a new pair of boots. -> John Lofgren M43 service boots
this is an anniversary limited model from veg tanned horsehide.
very nice quality and fit.some photos:
branded box.
spare set of laces and dust bags(rear case for work boots).
round last:
boots shape:
inside:
vibram sole:
nice leather with interesting color and touch, hard to see on my photos, but really nice.
boots are comfortable right from the box, probably partially because of unstructured toe box… I like them already.
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just received a new pair of boots. -> John Lofgren M43 service boots
this is an anniversary limited model from veg tanned horsehide.
very nice quality and fit.some photos:
branded box.
spare set of laces and dust bags(rear case for work boots).
round last:
boots shape:
inside:
vibram sole:
nice leather with interesting color and touch, hard to see on my photos, but really nice.
boots are comfortable right from the box, probably partially because of unstructured toe box… I like them already.
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I definitely didn't need a pair but I kind of regret not getting a pair of those 10A M43's. Such a good looking boot. If they made the combats in that leather I would have pulled the trigger.
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@Bulatik85 those are an absolute 10. You could get away with those being the only footwear in your life. Would love to hear fit info.
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@Bulatik85 those are an absolute 10. You could get away with those being the only footwear in your life. Would love to hear fit info.
@Bfd70 hi!
do you mean the some sizing information or just how they feel?from the personal feeling, they are very comfortable, the leather is supple and flexible, don't see that they need any break in.
they also sit very well on my feet, no slip or anything like that, very well secured on the feet.
I used to have some problems with some boots fit, they hurt my big toe. it is probably somehow nonstandard one and in case of unstructured toebox it is much more freedom to adapt to the feet shape.I didn't yet had a chance to wear them(only at home), the weather in my location is very wet now with a lot of mud and melted snow with solt on the streets. I've decided to wait a little for more dry weather
the veg tanned leather is usually very breathable, supple, but not that much water resistant, like chrome tanned leather.if you need sizing advice, please ask.
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If they do make the M43s in that leather again, I just might have to pull the trigger. I have three pairs of Lofgrens now and I feel that's excessive, but dammit those just look too damn good, especially once they age a bit.
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@PV/ATX depending on the size you’re looking for the Anniversary HH m-43 are available on his website ( that’s where I got mine)
https://johnlofgren.com/products/m-43-service-shoes-italian-horsehide-brown
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Dammit, you enabler!!!
Funnily enough I’d never really checked out his site, or maybe I had but it wasn’t this functional? Has it gotten better since the Rakuten Global Mkt ended?
Man. I want those but I just got my pair of Timber combats only a couple months ago, and one of my other pairs is the regular M43. I am extremely tempted, though. Size 12 does seem to stay available for a while in Lofgrens, so maybe they’ll stick around long enough for me to rationalize a buy a little later. Oy. Thank you so much for the tip!
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Haha. just trying to help out man….Yes, I think the JL site was either relaunched or upgraded recently..
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I do really appreciate it
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Been really loving wearing the engineers (and jeans) again, now that the oppressive Texas heat is starting to relent a bit. As I think I mentioned a while back, I have a really high instep and for whatever reason the right boot was really hard to get on, so much that I had to poke a hole in a ziploc bag and put my foot through it to help slip the boot on, then tear out the bag… more than kinda wasteful. Anyway, been wearing them as much as possible in an effort to aggressively try to stretch out the leather, and it's finally worked. Plus the patina's starting to look pretty nice
