3sixteen
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Pretty much agree with all of that and you nailed it with the flannels, they are the perfect lightweight option when it's too warm for my Iron Heart. They are absolutely not on the same level as the UHF's and I wasn't implying that but for what they are and the purpose they serve I haven't found anyone better but RgT will drop some nice lightweight flannels as well from time to time. I don't love all of 3sixteens flannels but they drop some very nice colors/patterns on a fairly consistent basis. It's like Iron Heart light for me.
EDIT: although I will say 3sixteen does drop some heavier flannels that are the next best thing to UHF's in my opinion. They dropped two "heavy" ones this past year and two lighter ones, I picked up all four.
Agree on 3sixteen having nice colors and patterns. I'm not positive but I think they develop their own colors/patterns with one of the mills they work with.
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@gaseousclay you recommend the 17oz beige wefts? I have been looking at them for a while and contemplating getting a pair and I think they still have some left in my size.
I'd say yes, they're worth a try. But, I haven't worn mine yet so can't comment on anything other than that I own a pair. I really like my shadow selvedge denim if that's any indication. I'm pretty sure @den1mhead has a pair of the st-140x beige weft denim that he actually wears so he might be the better person to answer your question.
And to further add, i'm not sure which 3sixteen cut is your favorite but i've really taken a shine to their SL "straight slim." My size 34 SL-120X measures about 35" at the waist after it stretched out, 12.5" thigh, 8.5" knee and 8" hem (at 31"). These measurements appear to be pretty darn close, if not exactly the same as IH's new 777-142 cut. I haven't measured my ST-140x's yet but i'm sure those are a tad slimmer since they're the slim taper
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I like the ST cut for 3sixteen but the SL cut does look good. I've gravitated towards a slimmer cut over the years. I used to be all about the straight cuts but I prefer the slimmer more tapered cuts these days.
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I measured my st-140x size 34 to give you an idea. These are unworn and measured the IH way.
Waist: 17”
Thigh: 12”
Knee: 8.5”
Inseam: 35.5”
Hem: 7.75”I didn’t bother measuring the front/rear rise though
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@manufc10 here's a pic of my ST-140X 17oz Slim Tapered Heavyweight Brown Weft jeans. I really love the colour contrast of the denim when wearing cuffs. They are a great fit and feel good on. They have internal felled seams on the inside leg rather than simply being overlocked. At $190 usd they are a bargain imo
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Those look great @den1mhead, thank you for the pic. I wonder why they discontinued this denim? Maybe not selling well for some reason.
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Well looks like my size is gone now anyways. It's too bad they are discontinuing both 17oz Indigo denims. Maybe that means they have a new heavyweight fabric coming?
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I measured my st-140x size 34 to give you an idea. These are unworn and measured the IH way.
Waist: 17”
Thigh: 12”
Knee: 8.5”
Inseam: 35.5”
Hem: 7.75”I didn’t bother measuring the front/rear rise though
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These are ST or SL measurements? I have the ST cut in 3 pairs but haven't tried the SL cut yet.
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I measured my st-140x size 34 to give you an idea. These are unworn and measured the IH way.
Waist: 17”
Thigh: 12”
Knee: 8.5”
Inseam: 35.5”
Hem: 7.75”I didn’t bother measuring the front/rear rise though
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These are ST or SL measurements? I have the ST cut in 3 pairs but haven't tried the SL cut yet.
ST. The only difference that I can see is in the thigh, which is .5” smaller on the ST cut. The thigh measures 12.5” on my SL-120x
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Those look great @den1mhead, thank you for the pic. I wonder why they discontinued this denim? Maybe not selling well for some reason.
I’ve wondered the same. I’m sure the mill they work with could churn out heavyweight denim, I’m just wondering if it’s not cost effective for them. Also, we don’t know if the factory they use can sew a pair together as effectively as IH
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I also bought my st-140x NWT on Fleabay for $125 [emoji106]
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Anyone else notice that the heavyweight t shirts have changed for the worse? The cotton feels rougher, they lose shape / change size drastically.. on a cold 'delicates' wash. Their suggestion that you should always cold handwash the shirts is crazy, who on earth has enough time to handwash t shirts. Been buying them for a few years and the quality has definitely slipped..beware the latest batches.
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Anyone else notice that the heavyweight t shirts have changed for the worse? The cotton feels rougher, they lose shape / change size drastically.. on a cold 'delicates' wash. Their suggestion that you should always cold handwash the shirts is crazy, who on earth has enough time to handwash t shirts. Been buying them for a few years and the quality has definitely slipped..beware the latest batches.
Fortunately this hasn't been my experience at all. How recent did you buy your last batch of T's? I bought some this past fall/winter and the quality was great, consistent with the ones I have from about 4 years ago. I don't hand wash mine either, machine cold wash and hang dry.
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@manufc10 Do you have the regular or long ones? How's the body length? I've been trying to get some plain white t shirts that I can wear untucked by themselves. I seem to have the opposite problem with blank tees that I usually have with shirts. They always end up being too long to leave untucked which is insane because I'm 6'5" or crop top style. I think I'm finally at the point where I'm willing to drop $40+ each because I can't seem to find a good replacement for my old cotton American Apparel tees.
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@manufc10 Do you have the regular or long ones? How's the body length? I've been trying to get some plain white t shirts that I can wear untucked by themselves. I seem to have the opposite problem with blank tees that I usually have with shirts. They always end up being too long to leave untucked which is insane because I'm 6'5" or crop top style. I think I'm finally at the point where I'm willing to drop $40+ each because I can't seem to find a good replacement for my old cotton American Apparel tees.
I actually have both. I have the regular length ones from the past few years and then I've been buying the long ones ever since they've been available.
I prefer the long ones over the regulars. I usually have the problem of T's being too short and the Long 3sixteens work perfect for me. I'm 6' and the Size Large Longs work great for me.
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@Palmer if you're looking for T's with some extra length I recommend the following
-Old Navy: cheap, lightweight "throw away" type T's. They make a Tall option for their basic V and Crew necks which have plenty of length. You can usually find them easily on sale for about 6 bucks a pop. I use them for gym and around the house mainly but when they are brand new I'll wear them out as well. For the price you can't beat them.
-Gustin: believe it or not..yes Gustin. Their T's are about the only product of theirs I would recommend. They have a good amount of length to them and have plenty of different color options available at any given time. The only knock is they have a tag which can be annoying at times. Nice thinner fabrics for summer.
-Snake Oil Provisions: Nice quality lightweight T's with a bit extra in the length. Also good for warmer weather.
-Buck Mason: Great fabrics, nice color options, good length. Buck Mason makes a really nice T…very very nice fabrics and lightweight for warm weather. They have a curved hem and straight hem option....I prefer the straight hem, curved hems aren't my thang.
-Pistol Lake: Another great option for lightweight T's with some length to them. Go for the Eudae T's, it's a great fabric. super breathable and lightweight and drapes very well.
-J. Crew: go for the Slub T's. Also very nice, lightweight fabrics. Decent amount of length.
-3sixteen; the longs as mentioned above. great medium/heavy weight option. I know EJS had his issues with a recent batch but I have been extremely pleased with the quality over the past 4 years or so. I highly recommend.
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Wow thank you @manufc10 for the detailed write up! I appreciate it.
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Fortunately this hasn't been my experience at all. How recent did you buy your last batch of T's? I bought some this past fall/winter and the quality was great, consistent with the ones I have from about 4 years ago. I don't hand wash mine either, machine cold wash and hang dry.
Makes me think I've got a rogue pair of black pocket t's. I bought them a few months ago from Cultizm but didn't start wearing them until recently. After the first cold wash they both went very short and square, at least an inch and a half loss in length. Very unlike the other 6 or so t's I've had from them over the last 4 years too and the cotton does feel different. Going to have a look at the brands you recommended in the other post, thanks for that.
