Random questions to which you seek an answer

[legedema]

first of all I am new to this forum and also new to Japanese denim.
will try to visit Hamburg shop the other week and would like to ask you for your recommendations.
I do like wearing jeans even for business meetings but considering those faded jeans, I think they just don't fit with a blazer.
do you have any recommendation for me for choosing the better option.
I also prefer blue collar to black

[Aetas]

Hi @legedema
Look here. Take the 721 as a starting point.
IH has a lot to deliver beyond their adorable denim.

[Tago Mago]

@legedema welcome to the forum. FYI, I have moved your question to this thread.

Agreed with @Aetas on the chino recommendation. You can check the non-denim/non-duck options. Different cuts in multiple colours to choose from

[legedema]

thanks for your reply.
but just checked Hamburg web site and seems like they don't have the 721

do you have also a recommendation for jeans with blazer

[Tago Mago]

@legedema that depends on what exactly you are looking for. In my opinion number one priority is fit, so try to get that right first. In general, your denim will fade over time but they all start in a fairly uniform colour. If you do get the opportunity to visit the Hamburg store have a look at the different denim weights and cuts on offer and see what works for you.

Also check out the cuts and the denims on the Iron Heart website

[Aetas]

Super Black Non Fade is my recommendation then. In Hamburg represented as 777, 666 and 634 (Edit: Just seen they are sold out).

Black/Black 14oz perhaps.
The 777 and 634 are available in Hamburg.

[akohut]

Does anyone have experience with getting more than 1 inch (let's say 1.5 inches) of stretch out of 21oz superblack non-fade in the waist? I feel that's fairly easily done on regular/OD pairs, but can't find much definitive about superblack non-fade. Not necessarily looking for methods of getting it there, more wondering if it's in the realm of possibility

[tody]

@akohut I have only experience with one pair of 9634, and that feels like it's going nowhere in terms of stretch.

[motojobobo]

@tody said in Random questions to which you seek an answer:

@akohut I have only experience with one pair of 9634, and that feels like it's going nowhere in terms of stretch.

I fully concur with Tody’s info.

[akohut]

@tody @motojobobo the product page says the 888s (and all other superblack non-fades, i believe) are good for an inch. you aren't even getting that?

[tody]

@akohut It doesn't say so on the IH-634S-SB product page, and I'm not getting an inch in stretch with mine.
@AdamC Maybe you should look into the descriptions here!

[AdamC]

Thanks @tody @SamD can you take a look to make sure this is in all of the SB pages. Our experience is that this superblack selvedge denim does have some stretch with wear, and we say approx one inch but as you know it is not an exact science

[AdamJ]

@AdamC it's on there now @tody

[motojobobo]

IH-888S-SB Superblack Non-Fade 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut
I bought these 5 years ago, never measured them, but they seem to fit as snug as ever. I realize it could be argued that my waistline expanded, I’m 60 now, but it hasn’t happened with other IH denim fabrics. I wore them the last two evenings on my current bike trip and I can easily keep them in place without a belt.
So that is my experience.

[tody]

Same experience as motojobbo, with the IH-9634Z. They may relax a little with wear, but nothing substantial. I'd go as true to size as possible with that denim.

[mattbags85]

Hey, could use some advice on this fit. 888 25 oz, size 31. I usually wear a 30 or 31 in Levis. These just don’t seem to be flattering on my body. Usually I wear a slim taper jean, like the Levi’s 512 or the 3sixteen Narrow taper which is a little too snug. 5’4, Muscley thighs and butt which makes sizing hard!
Thinking I should have gone with a 555 in a 30 waist.
You’ll see these posted in the selling forum.

[mattbags85]

[Tago Mago]

@mattbags85 FYI have moved your thread here

[Mizmazzle]

@mattbags85 Hey there dude! Here's my take on your fit:
First off, how tight is that waist? To get the best fit with the 888 cut you need to size that waist as tight as possible...it will stretch out in time....but the tightest waist will give the slimmest leg profile.

If the waist is as tight as you think you could go, even accounting for future stretch, then the 888 probably won't be for you if you're looking for a slimmer leg.

The 555 is a great cut with a higher rise and comfortable top block. The thigh and knee will be narrower, which looks like what you need to achieve the slimmer look you seem to be going for.

Another thing to consider with the XHS 888 is that the thigh will come in a bit with a wash...My XHS 888s were a bit too wide for my liking when I first got them...but post hem and wash they came in really nicely. But again, if you are looking for a more slim leg, the 555 will do the trick. 555 UHR will be my next pair for that very reason.

[mattbags85]

@Mizmazzle It is roomy in the waist, to where I can probably pull out the front about 1.5 inches. I went with 31 waist assuming that a 29 or a 30 would be too small after a wash. That might be the mistake. I do think a 29 would be really snug and tough to fasten, but would have stretched. 30 might be the happy spot.

With the 634 in a 30 waist I could barely button up without sucking and some serious pressure in the sensitive bits. That also lead me to a 31, but I think the 634 and the 888 top block are entirely different. The 888 is baggy around the glutes and crotch whereas the 634 is nearly skin tight.

I hope that the 555 is the happy medium for fit and sizing. I am going for a slimmer look, but don’t want to be so restricted in my movement that I can’t crouch down, climb stairs or sit comfortably.

Alas, we live and learn. FOR SALE!! Thanks for the input.