IH-555-02 - 18oz Selvedge Denim Super Slim Jeans - Indigo
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first of all, great to see you arrived safe and sound Giles…and now get that pig aka Seul out of Alex's bed
...and for the other guys, a visible outseam (in the thigh area) is most of all an evidence of too much stress/stretch on the denim/threads caused by stretching/bending your legs, flexing your muscles etc. without having any space left and the denim having any way to go, so the denim stretches at its "weakest" point, which is where it's sewn together! so to me this looks a lot like that is the case, even though you wouldn't say so, but I have the same "problem" with my 21/23oz pair of 634S-RAW...there's enough of denim, but still the outseam threads are a bit visible...
...nothing to worry about though (in case of constructional quality)! if you ain't satisfied with the looks of it, well it is what it is...if you go for an OD pair as your next one, you might will have the same "problem" just not that visible, since the OD threads aren't that visible!
good luck anyways
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Geeman. I don't really know what to say to all this. There is no stress on the seam that will cause breakage. I believe that I told you this via PM, so I can only conclude you do not believe me. Every single pair of Vintage Levi's I have, shows the side seam stitching like this. IT IS NOT A CONSTRUCTIONAL ISSUE, if you do not like it, that is a matter of personal taste.
Thompsona As for the "sag" issue, you have wither got the wrong size or your body shape does not suit this cut. The stitching is not "off"
Giles, I never implied at any point I do not belive you or questioned your or the products integrity. In fact I think I responded to your PM thats its good to see someone with such confidence in their product. Its this reputattion that led me to choosing IH in the first place. I meant no offence I was just voicing my opinion and questions in the relevent forum? You are right it is a personal thing, in my opinion I think it does the overall impression of quality no justice. It is something I have never came across in all the brands I have owned so thought this would be the best place to raise it. If I thought thte jeans were faulty I would have contacted you about returning them. it would also appear from above that someone else is also concerned of the appearence of the seam stiching showing so Im not alone in that. Perhaps using a less contrasting colour for that thread that may become visible would be an idea going foreward? Like I said if it continues to bother me I'll just get an addiditonal seam run down the inside to pull it back together.
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FYI, with this 18oz RAW fabric, it takes 3-4 months to settle properly. A lot of the fit complaints like flared hips, ass sticking out, bulge showing, goes away with several wears. My IH-634SV, made of the exact same fabric, still have areas that are not settled (stacks at outer selvage seam). I've been wearing them 4-5 days a week, since Oct 31, 2012. If people have such an issue with raw, STF, they should get the Sanforized denim, IH-555-01….
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Geeman. I don't really know what to say to all this. There is no stress on the seam that will cause breakage. I believe that I told you this via PM, so I can only conclude you do not believe me. Every single pair of Vintage Levi's I have, shows the side seam stitching like this. IT IS NOT A CONSTRUCTIONAL ISSUE, if you do not like it, that is a matter of personal taste.
Thompsona As for the "sag" issue, you have wither got the wrong size or your body shape does not suit this cut. The stitching is not "off"
Thanks for the input, I do like the way they fit it just seems the seat is awfully big. I do hike them up as far as the rise allows and it does the same thing. I don't mean to be a bother just wondering if you think this is a lost cause, will be something that settles down like others have suggested or maybe a hot soak with just that area of the jeans will help reduce the sizing a little? Thanks again
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i check my other jeans and the seam stitching indeed also shows but due to the dark thread it is not as visible as the 555-02, am i happy now? yeah but will be more happier if it is is not contrast stitching as my 1st impression is that chain stitching used here is a little bit loose as explained by G to relieved undue stress on the fabric. So I will not do any alteration on this because i assumed as it is my competition entry that when my denim fades it will be less noticeable. Hope everybody happy now and just enjoy rocking your IH jeans.
My UB the camera flash make the stitching more visible.
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^^ I think your "problem" is being solved with the first real wash you're going to give them. until that time I'd just wear them and don't care (wear and don't compare as Mme B used to say!)
the wash will thighten everything in the right places so you should be save afterwards!…if i do wash my 555-02 now will this affect the color and fading capabilities of the denim? i have a little extra fabric on my ass or i should wait for it to settle 1st.
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Yes, it will improve it. The raws should be washed before you wear them.
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It'll settle a little as it moulds and gets soft. It looks from the picture that you have too much fabric between the crotch and the rear rise (for your particular physique)so it is slouching and has to do so at the seam as that is a natural pivot point.
Thanks for helping me out with this. Im gonna give them another hot soak and see if that tightens anything up at all, I figure it won't make matters worse. But I'm curious, based on the way these fit, which model do you think would work better for me in regards to that issue, because this is the best denim I've ever come across. Thanks again, its much appreciated
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will be fun to watch the roping develop over the next two years:
i can't get away from 18oz denim
