1955S - 21oz Selvedge Denim "1955" Straight Cut Jeans - Indigo
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@spitfiredealer hahaha I would have to size down three to try to look like I did when I was 15 haha
Oh adolescence…you were not good to me haha
See I was going up sizes when I was 15. Can remember buying size 38-40 jeans and cargo pants when my proper size was
Probably closer to a 28-29
Waist. Lol -
Middle of May - all sizes…..
Hi,
I'm new to the forum and new to the fancy denim world, but the cut and specs on this model look very much like the idealized pair of jeans that my endless and as of yet fruitless quest has sent me in search of… that is, a proper natural waist (i.e. higher rise) in a comfortably slim and tapered cut. I'm sold! Unfortunately, so is my size.
Will the next production run (May 2016) source the same exact fabric, weight and all? Identical cut?
Is there any way to pre-order/pre-pay/reserve sizes?
Lastly, there should be no shrinking at all with these, correct? Please forgive the novice question.
Very glad to have stumbled upon this site and I eagerly await mid-May when I can finally retire my cheapo $30 Wrangler 936's in all their ugly smurfy blue splendor!
PS: I'm currently wearing size 34's in the cheapo 936 model, with the waist measuring precisely 17.5" (per your very clear & concise instruction - Thank you!) and I'd say they fit comfortably if just a touch loose. I should be a size 32 but I'm more like a 33 these days (most chinos, flannels, etc). The next 4 months wait should give me ample time to shed a few pounds and trim down to size. That said, would the size 33's (1955S) work for me in my current shape, hypothetically? Presumably there's some stretch to the denim, right? I'd be hesitant to jump up the 34 as I prefer the slimmer thigh/knee specs, however subtle it may be. I'm 5'9" and roughly 1165-170lbs... and dropping!
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Hi guys, first post here…
I've been wanting to get a 'better' pair of jeans for some time. Regular jeans last me just a couple of months before I blow out the crotch. The rear rise is never sufficient, and the forces at play on that area of the jeans are apparently significant- the light weight denim is stretched to breaking point on the rear seam, then blows out. Some research into top quality jeans led me here!
Luckily for me I live 10 minutes from a shop stocking Iron Heart jeans... hooray!
So I tried on a few pairs but my manly thighs and ass (6'1, 225lbs, short legs, weightlifter) meant this was the only pair they had that fit me and my muscular ass the way that I had hoped. The 36/36 looked smashing rolled up a couple of times at the cuff. But around the waist it did however take every ounce of my strength to do them up- I'm not carrying much of a paunch at all, I just have a large torso and wide hips.
Comments here suggest the waist will stretch out an inch with time, which is nice, and I won't be getting any fatter... but my question is, are there any other Iron Heart jeans with this wonderful fit (the room for the ass, the thighs, the great taper, the colour etc), but a more normal front rise? I wear all bottoms just above the hips, and I'm not sure I can adapt to such a high front rise. They'd be in my possession now despite the tightness of the waist if it wasn't for the hight of the front rise, which with my butt filling out the rear so nicely looks disproportionately high.
So, any alternatives with this fit, minus the super high front rise? Or any chance of this fit being sold with a more regular front rise? Or do we all think I'll just get used to it?
By the way, congrats on the build quality and feel and look of all these jeans! Brilliant. A class apart even from other expensive jeans I have worn. And great to have a forum to discuss them too!
Many thanks, -Rick
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Will the next production run (May 2016) source the same exact fabric, weight and all? Identical cut?
- No two runs of denim are never exactly the same (despite what some would have you believe). But I suspect no-one will be able to tell.
- We aim that the cut will be identical, but because of (1) above, there may be some slight variation
Is there any way to pre-order/pre-pay/reserve sizes?
No. What if you do change size? What if the May run differs a little from last run?
Complete the form if you want an email when they hit…And no, they won't shrink....
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Will the next production run (May 2016) source the same exact fabric, weight and all? Identical cut?
- No two runs of denim are never exactly the same (despite what some would have you believe). But I suspect no-one will be able to tell.
- We aim that the cut will be identical, but because of (1) above, there may be some slight variation
Is there any way to pre-order/pre-pay/reserve sizes?
No. What if you do change size? What if the May run differs a little from last run?
Complete the form if you want an email when they hit…And no, they won't shrink....
Thanks for the quick response; what a great resource this forum is!
Duly noted on all points and looking forward to the next batch. I've added myself to the mailing list for restock. Also crossing fingers that nothing's lost in the rise on the new run… onward and upward (specifically in rise!) for 2016
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Nope you're stuck with the 1955S or the 1955UHR….Waist on the S will easily stretch an inch...
A reply from the owner in 3 minutes of my first post, that has to be some kind of record
Thanks for the info, Giles. Might go back into the store and try the same pair on again tomorrow, see how they feel around the waist when sitting down and whatnot. So are their any similar tapered jeans you sell you'd recommend I try, considering the big thighs/ass?
Just out of curiosity… you don't think their would be a market for a pair of these jeans without the high front rise? I see you said they don't sell well enough to be considered manufacturing from 25oz fabric... maybe if the front rise was an inch, or inch and a half, lower the same cut would be a more attractive proposition? That's not in any way a criticism, just a thought.
Keep up the good work, mate.
Rick
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Nope you're stuck with the 1955S or the 1955UHR….Waist on the S will easily stretch an inch...
A reply from the owner in 3 minutes of my first post, that has to be some kind of record
Thanks for the info, Giles. Might go back into the store and try the same pair on again tomorrow, see how they feel around the waist when sitting down and whatnot. So are their any similar tapered jeans you sell you'd recommend I try, considering the big thighs/ass?
Just out of curiosity… you don't think their would be a market for a pair of these jeans without the high front rise? I see you said they don't sell well enough to be considered manufacturing from 25oz fabric... maybe if the front rise was an inch, or inch and a half, lower the same cut would be a more attractive proposition? That's not in any way a criticism, just a thought.
Keep up the good work, mate.
Rick
Hi Rick,
There's a million and one jeans available from virtually every manufacturer on the planet with a lower rise; you have no shortage to pick from. Allow me to be the voice of opposition and say that if the rise were lowered even an inch, as you suggested, I would have no interest in purchasing them. With all due respect, it seems less than gracious to offer advice in the way of cut and aesthetic to the designer of the article in question; let alone think that these jeans should somehow be tailored to each individual's preference. While its unique to have unfiltered access to the face behind the brand, who's been generous and enthusiastic enough to answer our questions and address concerns, lets exercise a bit of restraint. If you're looking for a lower rise, please look elsewhere or chose a different model.
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There's nothing wrong with asking questions or making suggestions. That's part of why the forum exists. Giles has gotten a lot of good ideas from members floating random thoughts; we have a pretty extensive thread devoted to that, in fact.
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Guys, I've just posted here for the first time today and worded my suggestion as graciously as I could, along with honest compliments of the quality of the garments. I meant absolutely zero offence, and wouldn't want to get a well loved jean altered. I was merely floating an idea for another member of the 1955 family. I read through maybe 40 threads here before posting a word, and I mentioned the idea as I'm far from the only person that needs a higher rear rise but doesn't desire a high front rise to go along with it. All the best. -Rick
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And thanks for sticking up for me Chris, I wasn't expecting or intending to cause offense and was a bit taken aback by it. I hunted this jean down because of its high rear rise, I can't wear low or normal rise jeans without showing too much crack when I bend or sit, and ruin the stupid things. If anyone knows of any jean other than a custom made one that is made from heavy fabric and is tapered and has a roomy thigh and high rear rise, please tell me because I'll buy it…
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@richardjohn22 welcome to the forum and thank you for doing your research before making your first post. I find it hard to believe that anyone would take any offense from your statement about a lower rise. We are all after that "perfect" cut, and we all voice our opinions on what "we" (the consumers want). I believe you found your perfect place to find your ideal pair of jeans, right here on the IHUK forum.
Since you found your way to the 1955S thread, I take it you appreciate the "vintage" cuts like a lot of us "denim aficionados" do - it's what brings us to looking for the "finer" products such as Iron Heart. Along with a lot of vintage style cuts, the tendency to find a higher rise is fairly common. The 1947 and 1955 (from nearly all companies) models (based on the original Levis 501's from said years) both feature this higher rise. in 1966, the rise was brought lower to meet demand of the consumers, with the '66 cut being one of the most popular versions of the 501 that have been tweaked by denim companies in japan (and stateside) since the Osaka boom in the late 80s-early 90s.
If you are looking to keep the vintage aesthetic while looking for a lower rise, the Iron Heart 634 is a great option. It is a "modified" '66 cut and features the lower rise as well as a more mellow taper from the knee to the leg opening - which was common in the era. If you are looking for a bit more taper than the 634 model, the Self Edge exclusive 633 model features the familiar mid-rise of the 634, with a more drastic taper, similar to what is found in the 1955s model. I also feel that the IHxB01 and the IH-666 could be an option for you as long as the thighs work for ya!
I hope this might help you on your journey, and let us know which Iron heart model you decide to get. Looking forward to the fit pics!
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@richardjohn22 I would second @Appfaff 's suggestion of checking out the IHxB01's, the rise isn't quite as high as the 1955s and it's made from the same denim. The thighs are a bit slimmer, though, although not as slim as the true slim cuts like the 666 and 555. Also, in a size 36, the waist will stretch 2" if you need it, my IHxB01 in size 33 stretched that much pretty quickly.
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Look what I went and acquired this evening…
I'm in the club now I guess
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@richardjohn22 I would second @Appfaff 's suggestion of checking out the IHxB01's, the rise isn't quite as high as the 1955s and it's made from the same denim. The thighs are a bit slimmer, though, although not as slim as the true slim cuts like the 666 and 555. Also, in a size 36, the waist will stretch 2" if you need it, my IHxB01 in size 33 stretched that much pretty quickly.
Thanks for the suggestions, buddy, this was the first pair of jeans I tried on today. They were a bit too tight, though… if they measured the same as the old runs of B01s they would have fit great, but the thighs and butt have contracted considerably. It was the 1955s or nothing if I wanted a nicely fitted pair of Iron Hearts it turned out... now I just have to get used to the high rise on the front, and increase finger strength to do up that tight top button!!
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For what it's worth- Pronto have plenty of these still in stock, especially their Central World branch. (Bangkok). Baht is fairly cheap at the moment too, meaning it isn't bad value either. You boys would love their stores, all the quality brands, and some Iron Heart exclusives hiding in there too.
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Congrats on the fine pair of denim! Enjoy and let us know how they evolve!
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Congratulations!! Welcome to the rabbit hole. Let's see some fit pics!
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Minus time spent in bed, I've worn these for the last 24 hours… and I'm already used to the high front rise! hahaha. So much for that being a problem! I was genuinely worried during the first couple of hours I spent sitting at my desk that it would be an issue I may never overcome. So much for that concern once the fabric gave a little.
Really lovely jeans to wear, and so comfortable to be in. I like the attention to details, like on the inside of the crotch where the seams meet- this could be a problem area with such thick fabric, but it's been cut and engineered in a very clever way and feels rounded and soft.
Will sort out some fit pics later- they fit my thick legs very well.