John Lofgren (Speedway)
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In terms of fit, Clinch mainly offers their narrow CN last (S&S got a series with a wider last) which is definitely narrower than Lofgren.
I have long and narrow feet so their CN last suits me well in the forefoot. So in my opinion the fit of Lofgren and Clinch are not similar. Can‘t tell the rather new US-modified Clinch last for S&S.
In addition, Japanese seem to have more bulky heels… I have some heel slip in my boots and wish to have a narrower heel box or a more contoured heel pocket as in my Vibergs. The Clinch heel is not that contoured... -
At least for me there‘s a bit too much room in the heel with Clinch, at least for persons with narrow feet like me. I suppose (and have read) that other people with wider feed struggle more with the narrow forefoot, so the CN shape/last from Clinch is certainly not for everyone. Don‘t get me wrong, they‘re great boots but they could be shaped better. Maybe the modified last offered via S&S could fix this issue but I think that the heel design in these is not modified so only the forefoot is less narrow.
In general, I think engineers are not made for walking long distances, the foot is not tied as snugly as in laced boots. But this is a general aspect of engineer vs. lace-up boots… -
Beautiful botos @jay-cy! How does the heel design affect your experience of the fit of the Clinch boots? And I wonder who – if anyone - has non-engineer boots of these 2 brands and can compare the fit and experience of walking in them.
maybe you could also tell your experience with your Lofgrens boots, I am waiting for my Horsehide M43 boots to be made, would be interesting to hear your experience. maybe photos…
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Good info @jay-cy. The heel cup is probably my favorite part of the Lofgren engineers.
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Oh yeah, and the color on those Clinch is a 10! Really gorgeous.
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Just pulled the trigger on the Burgandy chukkas. The leather and color looks amazing. I hope the size works out. I went the same as Alden and Wesco and 1/2 down from Viberg. Fingers crossed.
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Great pick up. Love to see a picture of them in the wild.
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Man are these badass. The burgundy color is unreal and the leather is top notch. Can’t wait to break these in properly.
I went for my Wesco and Alden size and 1/2 up from Viberg and RW.
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@summ3rhays. So killer. Straight up perfect chukka. Between these and the Alden chukka color 8 in shell, antique welt/commando sole…idk.
Knowing Lofgrens these appear far more utilitarian. Perfect work companion. Pretty tough between the black and brown too. Hope they fit great. The last looks great. Interesting you went up .5 on your RW. I lucked out with the M43 in my RW (IR) size 10.5 and they are likely the most comfortable boot/last I've tried. -
@Jdub They fit pretty well. There is a touch of heel slip, but I expect it to go away once they break in. I went up to 11.5 because the 11 at Standard and Strange was sold out, and I'm glad I did. My foot would be cramped in the toe box and these feel unrelenting in that part of the boot. I don't think it's structured, but it's solid.
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@summ3rhays. Very nice. Yeah such a crap shoot particularity with a chukka eh. The toe box can be deceiving as they appear/known to be rather forgiving and then combine the vamp which can be voluminous leading to less than ideal support and heal slip. You only have that little sweet spot in the vamp that has to be perfect.
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This just happened…
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Actually soaked these and the Badalassi in warm water. Was bored and annoyed with the excess (imo) toe box and instep leather. They indeed shrunk up and look better IMHO. Toe box is perfect. Finally determined with a sole of such a height combined with the minimal toe box space in the engineer, even half soles weren't for me and these work great without an insole…once they're broken in and the toe bed conforms to the foot. Couldn't even fit my foot in the toe box with an insole now. Just perfectly laid on the foot thereafter. Look pretty good with the XHSib.
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thanks for the answer Tom!
you guys really making it hard as feck to find my way into the world of engineer boots though and what pair to get as "the first"
(angry in a positive way that is!) 
White's, Viberg, Wesco, Lofgren, Mister Freedom…god damn it ain't easy! ^^
Agreed, I like the wescos for the black fire leather and think they might be a bit more rugged than the lofgrens so my thinking was that they will serve a great looking purpose in the winter and bad weather as well as allowing be to keep one boot a solid black for a more "dress" look I suppose. I can't wait to get my lofgrens looking like VEB's.
well which one are you talking about?
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Actually soaked these and the Badalassi in warm water. Was bored and annoyed with the excess (imo) toe box and instep leather. They indeed shrunk up and look better IMHO. Toe box is perfect. Finally determined with a sole of such a height combined with the minimal toe box space in the engineer, even half soles weren't for me and these work great without an insole…once they're broken in and the toe bed conforms to the foot. Couldn't even fit my foot in the toe box with an insole now. Just perfectly laid on the foot thereafter. Look pretty good with the XHSib.
I’m confused. You say excessive toe box leather but also limited toebox space. Seems contradictory.?
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@Bfd70 Sorry not to fawn. These boots are worn for like yard work, playing Siegfried and Roy with my tree rats , manly shit. It's a weird boot/last as other's have indicated. Hard to get on yet the instep is sloppy leading to the inevitable insole(s) fix then with the horween the toe box/instep stretched out with the volume increase imho. Didn't experience this so much with the Badalassi. Still love em though. The S&S horsehide version is dope AF. Would I buy them for full price knowing how these two fit? Not a chance. True story. Hope this helps others.
