IHM-20 - Overdyed 14oz Indigo Denim M65
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I def got shit when I first transitioned from classic button ups to IH westerns, even Taylor Stitch's shirts raised the cackles of my friends. I remember my defensive answer was, 'it's workwear!' haha. Deep rooted in our psyche to not stand out in a crowd and any perceptible change from group norms is initially scowled upon and poked fun at. Ive noticed the slow trend that many of my friends have started 'dressing nicer' in the past few years–not necessarily that they're following me, could just be growing up in general, idk
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"Urban Cowboy"… is familiar. Yeah it is funny. I think it is more of men still rocking their late adolescent wardrobes (including underwear...) and seeing anything other than a t-shirt and sneakers feeling like "what the hell man?" I certainly was there. I've had too many to count "IH, et al. IS NOT DESIGNER!" conversations. Haha.edit: The 159 shirt however has drawn compliments from many including my hater friends. People love that thing and it's probably my favorite IH shirt. haha.
I know these types well. I tend to view my IH stuff (as well as other denim brands) as my age appropriate grown up clothes.
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Defo. Brands like IH really help transition from youth rebellion to adult rebellion. I get compliments from time to time, but generally when I'm in London from people that know their shit. My 19oz lefty type III gets lots of compliments from the ladies in the office though for some reason.
I get the old 'double denim eh?' Comment. Given that most twats where I live live and die in Superdry shit, I can hold my head pretty high.
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Love em keep em coming. It bolsters my ego lol. Some of my dude friends hate on my IH gear making me feel costumy sometimes. Lol. Haters gonna hate!
Really? What in particular do they hate on? I get nothing but compliments on mine.
Not that I ever fish for such things but no one ever compliments me on my IH stuff. Don't really care though.
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It's not a matter of fishing for compliments or the fact that I care either, but it proves the quality and style of the garments when friends/strangers who know nothing about clothing can see it in a piece of IH gear and compliment it. It's proof that the items speak for themselves and it's undeniable.
No doubt. In my case though, the people I know wouldn't know sh*t from shynola which would explain the lack of compliments. I might as well be wearing a flannel shirt and jeans from Macy's
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Love this thing. Looking forward to seeing how it evolves, but its already my favorite jacket I've ever owned.
Supporting cast: Buzz Rickson, IHSH-99, PIH5DCT, Viberg
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This is a dope jacket! Looks great on you @peregrine!
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For those of you who sized down from your normal IH size, do you feel constricted at all in the jacket? I normally wear Xl in most of my IH shirts and occasionally can fit in to L in some work shirts. The measurements on the L look pretty close to the measures I’d target in a button down (except those long sleeves)… anyway, if you guys who have owned this for a while could advise I’d appreciate it!
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For those of you who sized down from your normal IH size, do you feel constricted at all in the jacket? I normally wear Xl in most of my IH shirts and occasionally can fit in to L in some work shirts. The measurements on the L look pretty close to the measures I’d target in a button down (except those long sleeves)… anyway, if you guys who have owned this for a while could advise I’d appreciate it!
Yes, a little. But, if I wear a thin top like a tee or henley i'm fine. This jacket is pretty thick & heavy to begin with so layering isn't necessary for me as I have no plans wearing it below 40 degrees. I can't squeeze into it wearing a flannel. And if that doesn't sound encouraging refer to the fit chart above all else. Some people went with their usual size and others sized down
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For those of you who sized down from your normal IH size, do you feel constricted at all in the jacket? I normally wear Xl in most of my IH shirts and occasionally can fit in to L in some work shirts. The measurements on the L look pretty close to the measures I’d target in a button down (except those long sleeves)… anyway, if you guys who have owned this for a while could advise I’d appreciate it!
I'm not sure if this helps but…I'm usually frustratingly right in between medium and large on almost everything IH makes. I'm 5'10 170lbs but my ideal chest measurement for something I actually want to button is about 44". So if it fits across the chest, the sleeves are usually too long for my t-rex arms
With that out of the way, I went with a medium in this and do not regret it at all. My plan was to wear this over just a t-shirt and it works well for that. There's a little tightness right in the deltoid area of my shoulder, but it's not bad.
I sized this jacket like I did my type IIIs, though I do like a slimmer fit with the type IIIs. I sized down one from the UHFs.
Hope that helps! If you can score this jacket, don't hesitate. I know everyone says that but this is easily in my top 3 IH pieces ever.
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Just got the measures for the 2 L's in stock from the IH crew… another question for you guys regarding fit...
Approximately where is the narrowest waist measurement in the jacket? and from your guys' experience with the jacket, is it possible to give the jacket a little more give if you only use the snap buttons vs zipping up? Reason I ask is that the waist measurements on both L's (about 21.4) are on the cusp of being too small for me in the midsection while the rest of the measures look like they'd fit. Usually I'm more comfortable with a waist measurement around 22.5" in my shirts/jackets.
Also does the jacket stretch at all with wear given that it's made from denim?
Maybe I just need to lose some LB's!
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For those of you who sized down from your normal IH size, do you feel constricted at all in the jacket? I normally wear Xl in most of my IH shirts and occasionally can fit in to L in some work shirts. The measurements on the L look pretty close to the measures I’d target in a button down (except those long sleeves)… anyway, if you guys who have owned this for a while could advise I’d appreciate it!
I was basically in the same situation as you with this jacket so I did what any logical, sane, financially responsible person would do and I bought two of them…one in L and one in XL. Yes I am keeping both and yes both of them fit.
I'm an XL in almost all IH shirts across the board, XXL in IH truckers and have an XL in the IHJ-61 Whipcord work jacket. The IHJ-61 fits me great in XL but does get constricting when I lift my arms to reach above my head...think reaching to get something out of the top cupboard. Also a bit constricting when zipped up and I'm fully outstretching my arms....think bending over to pick something up. None of this bothers me enough to not wear it though as I love the damn thing. Works perfect just over a T and I can even wear it over an IH thermal. This is exactly how the sized down L M-65 fits me but possibly even a bit tighter in the arms. Definitely only a T under the L but it still works. I use the expression fits like a glove...perfect way to describe it. For some having a jacket that fits like a glove is a bad thing and too small but this still works for me. It's almost too good of a fit if that makes sense...tailored. That being said it has stretched out a bit with wear which is a good thing.
So since I love the damn thing so much I also bought an XL and in all honesty it probably fits me the way it should especially considering the M-65 is supposed to have a roomier fit. More room but still fits great and not constricting at all with any movement. If I had to do it all over again....I'd probably go with the XL but again...both sizes work for me.
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Agree with @manufc10. Sizing down will be tighter and more fitted and going with your usual size will allow for layering. In my case, I sized for length. Had I gone with a large the sleeves and body would've likely been too long on me and I didn't want to look like I was wearing an oversized jacket. The sleeve and body length in a medium are perfect for my height.
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For those of you who sized down from your normal IH size, do you feel constricted at all in the jacket? I normally wear Xl in most of my IH shirts and occasionally can fit in to L in some work shirts. The measurements on the L look pretty close to the measures I’d target in a button down (except those long sleeves)… anyway, if you guys who have owned this for a while could advise I’d appreciate it!
I was basically in the same situation as you with this jacket so I did what any logical, sane, financially responsible person would do and I bought two of them…one in L and one in XL. Yes I am keeping both and yes both of them fit.
I'm an XL in almost all IH shirts across the board, XXL in IH truckers and have an XL in the IHJ-61 Whipcord work jacket. The IHJ-61 fits me great in XL but does get constricting when I lift my arms to reach above my head...think reaching to get something out of the top cupboard. Also a bit constricting when zipped up and I'm fully outstretching my arms....think bending over to pick something up. None of this bothers me enough to not wear it though as I love the damn thing. Works perfect just over a T and I can even wear it over an IH thermal. This is exactly how the sized down L M-65 fits me but possibly even a bit tighter in the arms. Definitely only a T under the L but it still works. I use the expression fits like a glove...perfect way to describe it. For some having a jacket that fits like a glove is a bad thing and too small but this still works for me. It's almost too good of a fit if that makes sense...tailored. That being said it has stretched out a bit with wear which is a good thing.
So since I love the damn thing so much I also bought an XL and in all honesty it probably fits me the way it should especially considering the M-65 is supposed to have a roomier fit. More room but still fits great and not constricting at all with any movement. If I had to do it all over again....I'd probably go with the XL but again...both sizes work for me.
Thank you very much! Sounds like we're pretty close in size… I had the IHJ-61 and loved the design and feel of the jacket but like you when I lifted my arms up over my head the jacket was constricting. It wasn't horrible but an annoyance that I knew would stop me from wearing it as much. As such, even though I loved the jacket I ended up selling it... I guess I just like my jackets to be a little roomier for freedom of movement...
Anyway, it sounds like the IHM-20 in size L will give me the same problems I had with the IHJ-61 in XL which is too bad. Can't seem to find the IHM-20 in XL anywhere so I guess I'll have to pass this time!
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No problem!
You might have the same problems with a L IHM-20 but one thing to keep in mind is that it has the shoulder pleats which does give you some slack with your range of motion. The main "issue" (if you can call it that) I have with my Large is actually the fact that the armholes seemed to placed pretty high on this jacket and the sleeves are trim which probably isn't helped by the lining. So this means it is tight around my armpits/shoulders and biceps. I don't have massive guns by any means but I'm fit and I am no stranger to the gym and curls. So if your arms are on the skinnier side it might not be an issue.
If I were you I would try one of the Larges from IHUK. You can always send it back if it doesn't work out. I'm sure you wouldn't have any problem selling it either if you wanted to do that.
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Thanks for the info regarding the sleeve height/etc… I didn't have any issues with the IHJ-61 in the sleeves... my arms are somewhat skinny... Issue with the IHJ-61 was only when I raised my arms up which leads me to believe it was just an issue with the lining and/or placement of the sleeves on the jacket.
One of the other measurements that kind of concerned me is the waist measurement... at about 21.4" waist that's the minimum I'd go in most my IH shirts... with this being a jacket I'm thinking it might just be too small in the waist for me. Then again I could stand to lose some weight!
And you might be right that the easiest thing for me to do would probably just get it from IH UK and return it if it doesn't fit right... on the other hand, if you ever decide to let go of your XL let me know
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Thanks for the info regarding the sleeve height/etc… I didn't have any issues with the IHJ-61 in the sleeves... my arms are somewhat skinny... Issue with the IHJ-61 was only when I raised my arms up which leads me to believe it was just an issue with the lining and/or placement of the sleeves on the jacket.
One of the other measurements that kind of concerned me is the waist measurement... at about 21.4" waist that's the minimum I'd go in most my IH shirts... with this being a jacket I'm thinking it might just be too small in the waist for me. Then again I could stand to lose some weight!
And you might be right that the easiest thing for me to do would probably just get it from IH UK and return it if it doesn't fit right... on the other hand, if you ever decide to let go of your XL let me know
Will do.
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No problem!
You might have the same problems with a L IHM-20 but one thing to keep in mind is that it has the shoulder pleats which does give you some slack with your range of motion. The main "issue" (if you can call it that) I have with my Large is actually the fact that the armholes seemed to placed pretty high on this jacket and the sleeves are trim which probably isn't helped by the lining. So this means it is tight around my armpits/shoulders and biceps. I don't have massive guns by any means but I'm fit and I am no stranger to the gym and curls. So if your arms are on the skinnier side it might not be an issue.
If I were you I would try one of the Larges from IHUK. You can always send it back if it doesn't work out. I'm sure you wouldn't have any problem selling it either if you wanted to do that.
I have the same issue with the armholes. I wore the ihm-20 one day with a tee and thermal and felt some chafing in my right armpit. But it was just the one time and haven't had chafing since
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