Lots of leaning on desks! edit: oh, just noticed the previous message. just a second…

Bought in January, washed three or four times. I recommend elbow patches, the elbows on mine would've worn through in three or four months without them.

Aaaa. I machine washed my ivory 666's for the second time and noticed that brown dye from the patch has spread into the fabric.  Since I rarely tuck shirts it's not visible around the patch, but there's a stain on the knee as well… is this a common thing, am I doing something wrong? Do you just remove the patch on your ivories?

edit: I've been washing them inside out as a precaution against discoloration from other clothes, maybe that's made it worse?

Hello all,

If tag size 30 (30.5" measured) is right for me with the 666 cut, would you recommend sizing down with the 1955 due to its higher waist? Or would I be better off waiting for that certain forthcoming thing? I'm skinny with big thighs and based on the 666 I really do need taper.

The size table is missing measurements for tag size 28 BTW.