thought id throw an update on here. its been not quite 3 months but almost. not quite daily wear either but close. the past few years have seen me live the most sedentary lifestyle ive ever experienced (although i do use a standing desk orientation for most of the work day), but ive still managed to have these on while playing a few gigs, driving around 6k miles, catching some shows, sleeping on a couple floors, and changing oil. the waist has stretched out quite a bit, so i feel i may have been a little too gentle with the initial soak and agitation. im currently going back and forth on whether or not ill do a hot soak and agitate again. otherwise though they are amazing and my girlfriend laughed when i said this the other night but wearing them is addictive.

@Kasi

or they could just word the care instructions more specifically in regards to these (the care pamphlet i received only explicitly states this is necessary for the 25oz). i like having the ability to initially soak and wash them myself.

thats cute you think im a "dummy" for asking a question, isnt that a big reason the forum is here in the first place? this was a big investment for me and i plan to wear them for years, so i didnt want to make a jack move.

ive gone over the sizing but i still wanted to ask for an opinion - if i wear a medium in a normal levis denim type III, and i want the N1 to be more slim fitting, would a small likely work for me? in pictures of similarly sized guys ive seen wearing mediums, the top area looks pretty baggy. again, ive checked the sizing out and i know nobody will be able to magically tell me what will work but was just hoping for an opinion is all from those familiar with how levis type IIIs fit. for reference im 5'10" 160.

@T4920 lookin sick man

well, just took a chance on a small. really hoping it fits, worried im gonna need a medium.

@Crispy-Heron cool man yeah ive said it a bunch before already but i think i may have been a little too gentle in my initial soak/wash with the jeans so ive been thinking i will do a pretty hot soak for my first "wash" post the first one when time comes and hope for the best, because ive got a ton of stretching in the waist. i dont think i care if the fades shift a little, is what it is. this is my first real pair of raws so i figured i was gonna make some mistakes, love em either way.

haha yeah man i would have definitely gone to see him live had i been old enough when he was still kickin. you much of a roky fan at all? 13th floor elevators?

@SaddleSC thanks, totally forgot about them having some. when i was looking for one the other day, their website had been down for awhile and i forgot to ever check back.

just an update: ive worn my medium literally every day since it arrived mid november until just the past week or so and even then occasionally inside since it gets colder in this old house than it is outside at times. i love this thing and i never want to take it off.

just an update: ive worn my medium literally every day since it arrived mid november until just the past week or so and even then occasionally inside since it gets colder in this old house than it is outside at times. i love this thing and i never want to take it off.

got a schmedium on the way! thinking its gonna be perfect

@SaddleSC thanks, totally forgot about them having some. when i was looking for one the other day, their website had been down for awhile and i forgot to ever check back.

the small got here, and it fits, but is a bit tight around the pits and at the shoulders when holding my arms out and moving them around. is there any hope of this loosening up a bit up top after some wear?

the sleeves fall exactly where i want them, its basically overall a similar silhouette to a type III at this size. i really wish i was able to try a medium on, it was so difficult to find a stockist who would actually allow me to return it for a refund if it doesnt work, and none still have medium that im able to find. i suppose i am either stuck with small or SOL at this point.

@Turbulence where did you find a medium

well, just took a chance on a small. really hoping it fits, worried im gonna need a medium.

kind of a lame post since i dont have pics as this was many years ago, but i dont think i have ever topped finding a complete silvertone 1484 at a goodwill. was in school for electronics engineering at the time and my professor helped me get it working. i was young and broke so ended up selling it for rent money years later at a fraction of what they go for now even with the reverb we never could figure out how to get working...i also once found a silvertone bobcat in a dumpster. you guessed it, sold that for peanuts too

@Giles im just noticing these slight details that seem to be different is all --
western:

jp:

i dont mean to say the actual piece is any different. this is what threw me off when trying to determine whether or not the ebay listing i was looking at was legit.

@tody ah yeah youre right. so i guess the japanese version is actually different from the western one.

i think this is a fake. i noticed the top zipper doesn't have the leather pull strip and the draw strings on the bottom dont look right. neither do the sleeve cuffs in the photos where they are turned inside out. ships from japan, link to the listing below. there are several identical listings from different sellers too.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/296002908606