@DeeDee85 thanks that’s exactly the kind of insight I was looking for. Much appreciated

@DeeDee85 thank you will do!

I guess I need to wait for the restock regardless … but I think you convinced me to stay away from the OD for now.

Looking for the most versatile pair - which seems to be the 14oz - though I feel like I “should” try the 21oz. The only other curveball I’ll throw myself is the 17oz natural indigo, somewhat of a middle ground and I like the idea of something that won’t fade very quickly

To be continued!

@goosehd @DeeDee85 thank you both a ton. That all makes sense and glad to hear there isn't really a "bad" one to stay away from. I had - admittedly, mostly fit related - some issues with my first and only foray into this space, so just a little fixated on getting the "right" pair the second time around.

I did had some conversations with the sales team already, and agreed - they're a super helpful bunch. Like you said though, it's all about personal preferences though so at the end of the day it's about what I'm looking for?

I think the 14oz is the rational choice, the 21oz is tempting because it's the flagship and has certain... qualities that people seem to be raving about... the 17oz natural indigo is a bit of a wildcard. I may ask the natural indigo folks for some of their experiences as well.

Much, much appreciated!

That side by side is super helpful. It also pushes me slightly towards the 21oz, the smoothness and slower fading would make it a little more “formal” perhaps and the 18 a little more casual I guess. It’s getting rather nitpicky haha but then they’re not cheap either so I will unlikely get both right away. Thanks again gents

That side by side is super helpful. It also pushes me slightly towards the 21oz, the smoothness and slower fading would make it a little more “formal” perhaps and the 18 a little more casual I guess. It’s getting rather nitpicky haha but then they’re not cheap either so I will unlikely get both right away. Thanks again gents

@kantian yep I fully appreciate that and thank you for the detailed response above. Just trying to minimize having to order and send back, but I may just have to.

Looking for my first pair of IHs. I started looking into the overdyeds first but thinking I should maybe start with a classic pair of indigos. For those of you that have both the 18oz vintage and the 21oz “classic”, any observations with regards to (1) which one actually wears warmer / is more appropriate year round (and maybe the answer is neither), (2) difference in texture - I would say sleeker / cleaner is better but is the 18oz really that slubby or just relative to the 21s? (3) any other thoughts or things you considered when ordering the 18oz would be super helpful. Thanks in advance!

@Alex that’s a shame. Thanks for the quick reply though!

Any idea if and when these are going to get restocked?

@goosehd @DeeDee85 thank you both a ton. That all makes sense and glad to hear there isn't really a "bad" one to stay away from. I had - admittedly, mostly fit related - some issues with my first and only foray into this space, so just a little fixated on getting the "right" pair the second time around.

I did had some conversations with the sales team already, and agreed - they're a super helpful bunch. Like you said though, it's all about personal preferences though so at the end of the day it's about what I'm looking for?

I think the 14oz is the rational choice, the 21oz is tempting because it's the flagship and has certain... qualities that people seem to be raving about... the 17oz natural indigo is a bit of a wildcard. I may ask the natural indigo folks for some of their experiences as well.

Much, much appreciated!

@DeeDee85 thank you will do!

I guess I need to wait for the restock regardless … but I think you convinced me to stay away from the OD for now.

Looking for the most versatile pair - which seems to be the 14oz - though I feel like I “should” try the 21oz. The only other curveball I’ll throw myself is the 17oz natural indigo, somewhat of a middle ground and I like the idea of something that won’t fade very quickly

To be continued!

@DeeDee85 thanks that’s exactly the kind of insight I was looking for. Much appreciated

New to the forum here - and new to IH, so please bear with me. Posting this here since I’m particularly interested in the 888 cut, but the question is really more about the overdyed fabric.

I run quite hot, so I’m looking for jeans that are relatively breathable. I love the look of the overdyeds, and so was wondering if the overdying process in someway reduces the breathability of the fabric? In other words, for someone that has both a 14oz regular indigo and a 14oz OD, is there a difference?

The second question is about 14oz vs 21oz. I’ve handled and tried some of the 14oz (not the OD) but not the 21oz. I believe I read somewhere that while thicker, the 21oz is more breathable? Any truth to that or is the 21oz still hotter in general?

Lastly, I’m primarily looking to wear these in a work (office) setting. This is obviously completely dependent on personal preferences, but to me the OD fabric seems to give it a bit more of a “chino” or just less of a faded jean look - and certainly not looking for high contrast fades. Any thoughts from people on what would look “cleaner” - OD vs regular indigo - I’d love to hear too.

Apologies for basic questions. Love the look of the OD fabric and love the 888 fit. Just trying to figure out the best version to take the first plunge. Part of me thinks the 14oz OD would look great and not run too hot, and part of me thinks the 21oz indigo version would be the most “classic”/safe.

Hope that makes sense. Thanks in advance.