My first post here. I am new to Selvedge Denim.

Recently ordered a pair of NF online that arrived and were too small. Rather than just send back and forth decided to take a 2-1/2 hr drive to Chicago, MildBlend, and try on a few different styles, sizes and brands to figure out what fits me the best. No real options for buying selvedge Denim products except online and the returns are a hassle.

I was looking to get fitted in NF and IH. I did find my style and size in both manufacturers.

I walked out of the store with a 2 pairs of NF denims, 20 oz. and 16 oz., and a mission to find a pair of the IH slubby's in my style and size. The IH 777S style fits me the best.
Today I found a pair on line and pulled the trigger, IH 777S-Slub 36.

The NF and IH seem to fit well but I am most stoked about the IH and the forum here. The prospect of having a forum to share experiences, wear jeans that fit well and will form to my shape is very appealing to me.

Thanks to all here that are sharing their passion.

Now to figure out what to do about break in and washing.....

My shirt came today and I am posting photos as promised. This is an XXL and it fits pretty well. Perhaps just a smidge snug. It does not feel tight. The sleeves are a little longer than I like but they will work.

The color and the texture of this shirt is really interesting in a very nice way.

If I wash this in cold water, will it shrink?
I plan on keeping it as I am continuing to lose weight and improve my tone.
3 hours a week at the gym with a trainer will do that; so glad I got a membership.

Thanks for the tip @T4920.
I am wearing the 20 oz now and will soak and wash them this evening. They have a 2% stretch material in the denim and fit pretty snug in all the right places. I am ok with the shrinking a bit if the waist will stay or stretch back to the current size.

Was just notified that my IH's have shipped.

BTW, I am no youngster so this is a bit of an adventure for me to explore selvedge denim. I really appreciate high quality products that improve with age.

Kinda like me.......at least that is what my wife says.

Thank you all for your comments!
Today the mailman was good to me. My IH777S-SLB 36 16 oz, Slubbys arrived. They fit nearly perfect and are super comfortable. I went from zero pairs of selvedge to (3), 2 NF and 1 IH in less than 5 days. Yes, the IH feel and fit better than the NF. They are comfy right out of the box, wow. Looks like limited break in!

So, now where my travels take me, I will be on the look out for IH stores to confirm my size/fit so I can buy new special releases online as I am several hours away from any BM store.

This community is awesome and I really appreciate the responses to my post.
I will definitely be investing in some more IH Jeans.

My only regret is that it took me this long to discover them.

I think I will now take a bath in my jeans.

Hey, I found a pair of 35's at Withered Figs and ordered them. Got them today and they fit great. The top block is snug, knees and calves fine, thighs are a little loose maybe.

I am looking forward to breaking these in. This selvedge denim is very intriguing to me. I am brand new to selvedge and in the past month have gone from 0 to 5 pairs. All different and all comfy/unique in their own way. The IH 777S fit me the best and I have the slubby's and now the 21 oz. I have my eye on the 777N and hope to snag a pair of those later this summer when they restock. Buying over the internet is a bit challenging until you get your size/dimensions worked out.

I am beginning to get what this Selvedge is all about. Most of my time is spent in the office as a construction manager and business developer. My denim will never see the kind of use that some of you put yours through. I do expect these jeans to become more comfortable with age and last a long time.

I'll post some photos later. I do appreciate the friendly atmosphere here on the forum.
So much denim, so little time.

I am new to selvedge and am trying to understand a few things. I bought my first properly fitting pair(s), 14 oz & 20 oz, on Saturday and am enjoying the fit and break in. I also ordered a pair of IH's Sunday. I am totally stoked and beginning to see the appeal. For one, I really like things that improve with age, are durable and timeless. The initial cost can be high but if the value is there, I totally get it. My clothes tend to last a long time including my shoes and boots so the investment can be worth it.

There are a couple of things that puzzle me. I mean this in all respect and solicit your comments and perspective.

1. I see lots of people buying premium selvedge, focusing on fades and wearing through the jeans in just a couple years, blow outs, rips etc. I have a hard time getting my head around buying premium selvedge and destroying them in just a year or two. Is this mainline Denim head thinking or a small percentage of selvedge owners?

2. What is the difference between so called entry level selvedge, say N&F or unbranded vs premium selvedge, say IH? In some cases the the premium selvedge may be twice the cost of the entry level. Just curious here as I presume you could make a similar statement about comparing a Seiko to a Rolex. I do understand Brand value. It is fairly well know that Rolex's don't keep great time.

I am learning about the various combinations of denim components, dyes, patterns, thread thicknesses and consistencies, how these are combined and the wear and fade patterns they create. It is fascinating, there are so many possibilities and unique runs of patterns may never be available again. Very cool, so why try to wear the jean out and destroy them in the process when they literally can not be replaced? I would think that you would want to get to the fade and then protect the product. Again, is this mainstream or a minority?

I appreciate your insights as I learn more about the world of selvedge.
Thanks

I am looking at a pair of these and have a sizing question. I am still a bit confused after reading through this thread.
My best fit is the 777S. I have a pair of Slubbys that fit nearly perfectly. They are a tag 36 with a 36.1 waist and 10.8 rise. I like the lower rise and the waist is snug, just right.

The UHR in a tag 35 have a 36.5 waist pre-shrunk. This would fit well before shrinking.
The Tag 36 have a 37.7 waist pre-shrunk and would be big before shrinking.
I would soak these before wearing and expect a 1" shrink in waist.

Some recommendations suggest that the initial dry fit should be good and that the shrinking and re-stretching will provide the best long term fit.
So, what to do.

The tag 36 waist at 37.7 is too big pre-shrink.
The tag 35 waist at 35.6 is nearly perfect at pre-shrink.

Could I anticipate stretch back on the tag 35 to get to a 36" waist?
Would I be better off to try and hot shrink the Tag 36 to get to a 36" waist?

Appreciate your suggestions.
Thanks,

Hey, I found a pair of 35's at Withered Figs and ordered them. Got them today and they fit great. The top block is snug, knees and calves fine, thighs are a little loose maybe.

I am looking forward to breaking these in. This selvedge denim is very intriguing to me. I am brand new to selvedge and in the past month have gone from 0 to 5 pairs. All different and all comfy/unique in their own way. The IH 777S fit me the best and I have the slubby's and now the 21 oz. I have my eye on the 777N and hope to snag a pair of those later this summer when they restock. Buying over the internet is a bit challenging until you get your size/dimensions worked out.

I am beginning to get what this Selvedge is all about. Most of my time is spent in the office as a construction manager and business developer. My denim will never see the kind of use that some of you put yours through. I do expect these jeans to become more comfortable with age and last a long time.

I'll post some photos later. I do appreciate the friendly atmosphere here on the forum.
So much denim, so little time.

Awesome, Thank you

Thank you!

I am looking for a pair of these in 35 tag.
Any idea when they will restock? Last restock was about 6 months ago, November 2022.

Are there any plans for a restock of these anytime soon.
Looking for tag size 36

My shirt came today and I am posting photos as promised. This is an XXL and it fits pretty well. Perhaps just a smidge snug. It does not feel tight. The sleeves are a little longer than I like but they will work.

The color and the texture of this shirt is really interesting in a very nice way.

If I wash this in cold water, will it shrink?
I plan on keeping it as I am continuing to lose weight and improve my tone.
3 hours a week at the gym with a trainer will do that; so glad I got a membership.

I went ahead and ordered the XXL.
I have never ordered any thing beyond an XL and that was before I dropped a bunch of weight. These shirts must run small.
We will see how it fits and I will upload some photos.
This is really inconvenient being having to do trial and error on sizing.
Thanks for the encouragement guys!
Stay tuned..........

Gentlemen,
I could use some advice on sizing since I will have to order over the internet and I do not have access to a try one of these on.

I measured several of my shirts today to compare to the IH measurements. I also measured my chest, belly and waist thinking that if I double the shirt measurements I could compare the two.

This is how they came out.
I am 5'-10", 193 #, chest measures 44, belly 43, waist 39, shoulders 20, (down 18# since starting gym membership in October, still working at it!)

I measured my body, (3) pair of my shirts I own that fit with room and compare to the IHSH L, XL
Actual. Shirts. IHSH Dimensions
Shoulders 20, 20, xl 18.6, xxl 19.6
Length NA, 31-34, xl 30.3, xxl 30.7
Chest P2P 44, 24-25, xl 22.7 (2x=45.4), xxl 23.6 (2x=47.2)
Waist. 39, 23.5-25, xl 21.7 (2x=43.4), xxl 22.6 (2x=45.2)
Opening 39, 24-25, xl 21.8 (2x=43.6), xxl 22.8 (2x=45.6)
Sleeves. NA, 24-24.5, xl 26.7 , xxl 27.1

Shoulders - looks like xxl would be minimum
Length - L & XXL will work
Chest - Looks like xxl is best match for shirt dimensions but would maybe equate to 47" chest which is too big.
Waist - Looks like xxl is best fit although a bit less than my shirts.
Opening - Looks like xxl is best fit, even though it is an inch less than my shirts, the circumference seems ok.

So given the above, would you recommend the xxl? I see they can shrink a bit and if I chose the large it might shrink to be too small.

What are your thoughts.
As an aside, the IH 777S in tag 36 is the best fit for me. I was able to try on in Chicago last month but did not try on the shirts. Bought a pair of slubbys :).
Thanks for your help.

Thank you all for your comments!
Today the mailman was good to me. My IH777S-SLB 36 16 oz, Slubbys arrived. They fit nearly perfect and are super comfortable. I went from zero pairs of selvedge to (3), 2 NF and 1 IH in less than 5 days. Yes, the IH feel and fit better than the NF. They are comfy right out of the box, wow. Looks like limited break in!

So, now where my travels take me, I will be on the look out for IH stores to confirm my size/fit so I can buy new special releases online as I am several hours away from any BM store.

This community is awesome and I really appreciate the responses to my post.
I will definitely be investing in some more IH Jeans.

My only regret is that it took me this long to discover them.

I think I will now take a bath in my jeans.