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One year old and just had their second proper wash.

I can safely say I’m converted when it comes to the 142 denim being an ‘everyday’ friendly material.

@truongj28:

Knight and Neph, thanks for the advice. I will report back in about a week. Normally my wife would take a pic but I just told I bought these and she isn't too stoked about it…hehe....

Mine are about 18 months old and I’d say the first 3 months I couldn’t even get my fingers in to the front pockets and my thighs were constantly under pressure but this eventually relaxed.

Have faith, the main thing is that you could ‘just’ squeeze in to them brand new so I’ll bet my bottom dollar they’ll mould to you perfectly.

@truongj28:

It's really the thighs that are concerning me since the waist buttons up somewhat easily.

I do recall the thighs on mine being the last to stretch out as well as the pockets were borderline unusable. The waist does stretch a lot so I’d insist on getting a properly fitting belt.

@neph93:

@truongj28:

Hey guys, just scored a pair of these in and they are amazing. How much stretch can I expect in the thighs? They are a touch tight right now but I'm hoping they relax and loosen a bit because everything else is perfect.

It is 21oz so they will relax and loosen. Calling it stretch is a little strong. Wear them for your everyday activity and it sounds like you’ll be fine. Personally I think a little tightness in the 21oz at the start is a good thing.

The heaviness of the denim increases the feeling of tightness. Once you get used to it and the denim relaxes it sounds like you’ll be fine.

Get a couples of pics up if you’re unsure. A little third party opinion never hurts.

Agreed. If you can ‘just’ button them up and they feel snug to the point of “barely fitting in them” then they’ll eventually fit you perfect. You’ll walk around like the tinman following the yellow brick road for the first few hours but the denim does relax quite a bit. Be warned that eventually you’ll consider this weight of denim normal and anything lighter will feel like tissue paper in comparison.

@gaseousclay:

I almost pulled the trigger on this jacket during R&H’s sale but decided to show some restraint. My son’s bday is coming up which means presents for him rather than myself [emoji16]

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Should have bought him one, he’ll grow in to it.

I'm actually surprised this jacket thread hasn't seen as much attention as the others!

I'm now the proud owner of a 142 and it's probably the best IH jacket in my opinion, and that's saying something considering my name is probably on the IH crews dartboard  Let me explain….

I've sent back 90% of the jackets I've purchased from IH mainly down to the premise that I'm extremely fussy and not a direct reflection upon the products themselves. This stems from a 12 year career in the aerospace industry where you develop an annoying case of OCD which in turn causes you to notice little details that most folk wouldn't, here's examples of the jackets I've sent back:

IH-526-SBG: Lovely denim and fitted me perfectly but I found the body length just a little too short. I ended up keeping this for a year and the denim never quite relaxed properly so ultimately ended up selling it.

IH-526L-OD: Body proportions were all perfect but the body length was a touch too long and the unevenness of the overdying left random streaks where it has obviously creased during the process and it didn't suit me.

IH-526PJ: Denim was perfect and proportions were great but the arms seemed overly boxy, I'm a skinny fool so 'regular' sleeve widths look odd on me.

IH-956PJ: Admittedly this jacket was perfect but like it's indigo brother the arms were too loose, in line with the traditional 'trucker' fit but I like my clothes to have a slimmer fit.

So after this I was pretty bent on avoiding IH products as they just didn't seem to suit me. That was until I saw that their UK stockist Rivet & Hide had a decent sale on and one of the items featured was the IH-526J-142! I looked at the measurements, the fit pictures and the shoulders seemed a little small but I figured there was nothing to lose so added it to my order.

The jacket turned up and admittedly I was expecting to find something that would annoy me, I opened the box and the first thing I noticed was how solid it was for a 14oz denim (I know it's made the same way as the 21oz). I checked it over and also noticed there was a slight slubbiness to the material that I wasn't used to but I've grown to like in other products purchased. Now the fit......perfect!! The body length is spot on, the shoulders sit right where they're supposed to and best of all the sleeves are quite narrow, just the way I like 

If you're looking for a slim fitting IH product but don't want the heft of the 526L which I hear also fits on the slim side then check out the 142 jacket, very versatile material for mixed weather and it looks like it can still take a beating like it's bigger sibling. Can't wait to see how this one will age!

@Giles:

Denim will always stretch where pressure is applied…Though because of the construction of the shoulder (felled seam), this will limit the fabrics ability to stretch as much as in non-stitched areas...

That’s reasonable.

It was more out of curiosity as I’ve noticed that the 526-14 is slim shouldered too so wondered why they measure up smaller than their ‘beefier’ counterparts.

The shoulders seem pretty narrow on both the 142 & 142OD in comparison to other jackets of similar sizing. No doubt makes for extra trim fit but is there room for stretch?

The shoulder measurements on the westerns do seem pretty small in comparison to other shirts with similar measurements, im assuming this is to give them a more trim fit?

I know this may sound a little daft but are the black snaps fitted as standard to the UHF westerns any different from the black ones available as an upgrade?

@browniemcghee:

I think they may come without contrast stitching on the pockets.  Haraki seems to be favoring that lately.  I agree it looks nicer with tonal stitching on the hand warmer  pockets.

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The sample piece in the 526PJ thread looks to have tonal stitching for the pockets.

They do look epic once broken in, hopefully they do another run!

@chubacca:

I recently purchased this jacket and it's awesome.  I gave it a hot soak and hope all the shrink is out.  It took some time to break in, it's really heavy duty.  I'm getting used to the extra length in the sleeves and in the body, kind of annoying though.  The hand and inner pockets are a nice touch add add more every day utility.  My previous jacket was 15 oz. Samurai S0552XX and I'm a bit surprised how much more heavy duty this is.  I look forward to see the progress of this and try to wear it as much before it gets hotter in the summer.

What sort of shrink and arm twist did you see?

@neph93:

@Giles:

The simple answer is that mysterious things happen when overdying", that's part of it's beauty and wabi sabi…

I'm incapable of writing simple answers… it consistently amazes me that you can say the same thing as me using a small fraction of the words.

90% of the finish was fine and I didn’t mind the roping effect on the edges as a result of the OD process, the jacket was returned as this mark was quite distinctive and in a ‘visible’ place (ie front of the collar) which was bugging me.

The OD process was visually nice and I’d have swapped for a different Medium 526Lod if there were any more in stock. Then again here I am eyeing up the 526Jod…..

If there’s any possibility of the forthcoming 526PJ coming in an OD variant then I’ll be in my element 

@piranha:

I'm between a Medium and a Large and I bought a Large 526L and shrunk it down to a Medium, but this was with strong agitation and very hot water. All of the measurements are those of a Medium size from length and chest, etc.  It can be done!

@Mr:

Currently toying between one of these after a few helpful emails with Alex or waiting for the 526PJ that’s due out in March (526 with pockets + 1 inch extra length)  ::)

What sort of shrinkage have people seen in the length, sleeve and chest? As Giles suggested (0.5” all over)?

I’ve just returned a Medium 526Lod as I wasn’t completely in love with the surface finish (personal taste) but the dimensions on that were spot on if a little snug in the chest. Chatting with Alex he advised going for Medium 526L and soaking it would be the best port of call so I’m looking to see what sort of shrink you guys have gotten?

Did you get much in the way of arm twist with that amount of shrink? The only ‘slight’ thing putting me off the loomstate 19oz is the fact it’s going to be able to twist the second it touches water. Not great for chaps with major OCD

Are the sleeves remaining standard length?

Currently toying between one of these after a few helpful emails with Alex or waiting for the 526PJ that’s due out in March (526 with pockets + 1 inch extra length)  ::)

What sort of shrinkage have people seen in the length, sleeve and chest? As Giles suggested (0.5” all over)?

I’ve just returned a Medium 526Lod as I wasn’t completely in love with the surface finish (personal taste) but the dimensions on that were spot on if a little snug in the chest. Chatting with Alex he advised going for Medium 526L and soaking it would be the best port of call so I’m looking to see what sort of shrink you guys have gotten?

Just received mine and I'm mostly happy with it in terms of fit.

Mad Query - Does Alex or Giles know how the jackets are constructed in the collar area? I've noticed on the left hand collar 'point'  that there is a distinctive raised 'snaking' silhouette on the left hand collar that is quite noticeable and I can't quite put my finger on why it's there. Feeling over the area there's definitely something 'trailing' underneath the fabric which makes it slightly raised, making me think there's almost like a chain of excess threading tucked inside there.

My 526SBG doesn't have it so I'm wondering if maybe it's part of the production process where excess threading from sewing the collar seams is tucked inside once completed and it is supposed to sit neatly along the inside of the seam instead of along the collar point.

EDIT: the picture makes it look like it’s faded through the dye (it won’t be, it arrived today
) but the ‘light’ outline is actually a shine from. Is this just starch from it being brand new? I’ve noticed most of the fabric is a matt finish but there are occasional parts that have a shine to them.

@manufc10:

@Mr:

Currently having a personal dilemma between these and a pair of 777-21oz ::)

Is there a particular reason for the waist measurement to be 1" larger than the tag?

Only reason I ask is I'm a 30" waist (somewhat shocking considering the love for pizza) and the 30 tag 666 claims 31" yet the 30 tag 777 claims 30"  suppose the logic step would be punt for tag 29 666?

Your actual waist is 30"?

My current jeans were 30" (Nudie Grim Tim) prior to stretching with wear, they buttoned up snugly when brand new and measured as advertised. They also have similar rise to the 666 30 tag so sit the same.

Currently having a personal dilemma between these and a pair of 777-21oz ::)

Is there a particular reason for the waist measurement to be 1" larger than the tag?

Only reason I ask is I'm a 30" waist (somewhat shocking considering the love for pizza) and the 30 tag 666 claims 31" yet the 30 tag 777 claims 30"  suppose the logic step would be punt for tag 29 666?