good suggestion. i thought that maybe on a sunday, i might get some interesting responses here. and yes - all of my interactions with them have been great thus far.

@tody said in IH-720-KHA - Khaki Cotton Whipcord Work Pants:

@Nelson-Baboon One thing to consider with the whipcord pants is the fact that the fabric will not stretch. While the stretch is something to be factored in when buying denim, these pants will stay where they are.
So if pants that fit you well are 15", and these are 14" they are probably too small. I sized up in these in comparison to what I have in the 634 cut to compensate for the lack of stretch.

yeah. they don't feel like they will stretch. however, they feel ok when they are on, and i actually do intend to lose a few pounds. i guess the practical part of the question boils down to - given the methodology of measuring the waist size, why do these seem to come out to 14" rather than 15" (or actually a bit above, given what the size chart says).

good suggestion. i thought that maybe on a sunday, i might get some interesting responses here. and yes - all of my interactions with them have been great thus far.

I'm wondering whether, as a beginner, i am not quite understanding the waist measurements. these pants looks great, but ...i have been at my approximate weight now for about 8 years, and size 30 pants have fit me perfectly in the waist every time. I have been upgrading my garments in general, and my previous pants have been from 1620, and the waist size 30 fit perfectly. Now, i am hoping to get my weight down a few more pounds (not overweight, but trying to get to ideal fitness at age 71), so i can live with this, but i bought 2 variants of these pants, and they are both the same. So tight in the waist that i can barely force them closed - tight enough that i am a bit worried that the buttons will not withstand this. When i view the video on how to measure, and i measure these, it looks to me like they are too small. it looks like these measure 14" (calculating to 28" when doubled). When i measure a pair of the 1620's, they come to 15". They were hemmed, but my inclination is to work with these anyway. Losing another 5 pounds, or a bit more, is in the plans anyway. But am I missing something here? (this isn't a complaint - went way overboard and (lol) it feels like i've bought out the whole store. And i'm loving everything. But I am a bit puzzled about this, and hoping that i will learn something. But would be wary of ordering more pants at this point. (go for it - i can laugh at myself, and would like to, in this instance).

@Heavy_blue made some progress. I was able to button 2 of the buttons. Eventually i'll get there, but at this rate it will take a very long time. it will make the jacket so much more satisfying once i get it.

@sabergirl Nice idea, but the material doesn't seem to stretch when i do that. not getting anywhere.

very much a beginner with this kind of clothing. somewhat old, stiff hands, but not weak....I simply cannot do the buttons. I unbuttoned them, but trying to button them again while wearing this - i simply can't do it. Is there some kind of trick that i'm missing? Frustrating because i love the way the jacket looks.