tell me about it @neph93, here are a pair of 7 year old 301s of the 21oz fabric

The 21oz fabric is certainly something special

Hey all!

Here's a 13-mo update to my 888s. 2 washes, tapered them down to 7.25in at the hem, hemmed to 28.5in.

@sabergirl:

Those look great! Now thrash em

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Will do!  Taking them to a concert, birthday party, festival, and movie in that order this weekend!

Got the 32s!  Thanks for all the help, everyone.

I was able to cancel the hem and I'll be stopping by again to check out their widest 32.  The guy measured the thigh to be about 0.3 in narrower across the front which seems consistent with self edge measurements.  Ironheart measurements calculate out a 0.4 in difference.  I don't live close to SE where I can go every day, but I'm trying to generate a mental image for what it would  look like.  Could anyone postulate if that would visually trim down the thigh signifcantly?  It's anywhere between a 0.6 to 0.8 in difference.

Edit -

For reference and posterity for any future purchasers, I did a measurement comparison between between my previous jeans and known Iron Heart's Measurements -

I realize doing these quantitative measurements for a pair of jeans may be overkill, but I'm limited in my ability to go try them.  Anyway, after putting these numbers against each other and considering how I've felt in these different fits, I think the 32s should be the appropriate size for me in the thigh while giving me the extra benefit of a longer rise to have flexibility to do things.  However it seems like I'll need to put work into stretching them ~2 inches in the waist for them to fit comfortably (or lose weight, which is never a bad idea).

I'll update with more pics when I finally get my hands on them…

Haha, thanks all.  I went back in to SFSE and tried the 33 back on and it felt fine.  I was probably just in my head.  Here is the fit with the 33s, still full in the thigh but I think the fit is good from the knee down.  There was no way for me to fit into a 32 either without feeling like I was suffocating.  I'll be getting them hemmed to 32 in for some double cuff action and these will be my labor pants.

For reference, my best fitting slim pants are my W+H Kyoto Blacks which measure at
Waist: 17.7
Rise: 11
Hip Width: 20.1
Thigh Width: 11.8
Hem: 6.7

and I was looking for a slightly fuller, straight cut pant for bumming around/activities where I could lift up my leg and do things like the 888 which measures (according to SESF)
Waist: 16.25
Rise: 12
Thigh: 12.2
Leg Opening: 8.2

Edit - I feel set on this but as I scan through the pics of other users here, all of there fits look slimmer through the thigh.  Does it look like this is still fairly loose on me?  I have time to call to cancel the hem, but I don't know if a 32W would fit me in my waist…

Thanks, all.  Guess I'll be stretching and losing weight anyhow.

Just to confirm some of the things I've seen, is it possible to have a 2 in stretch in the waist of these?  I tried on a 34 today which felt okay in the waist, but was a bit more full in the leg than I wanted. The 33s fit really nice along my leg, but the waist causes me to muffin top over.  My range of movement is still fine though.  I've uploaded a shot of me in the 34s and perhaps someone can tell me I'm being paranoid about them looking big.

Ironheart 301s after 2 washes over 1.5 years

@maxwell2blue:

nice leather man, that a TOJ?

yep!  cwu-45 just came in last week