@jdl1279:

@seamill no expert, but would assume the hot soak 33 would stretch for you, but know the 32 will stretch as well. Either way, you'd be going through a pretty uncomfortable period. This denim is worth the pain though. My hips were bruised for a couple weeks breaking mine in, totally worth it for what's become my favorite jeans ever.

Side note, despite working in them and getting quite dirty. I have resolved not to wash again until I hang them up for the season. I am at a stage where indigo loss is at a peak and can't bear messing up the beauty marks coming through

Thanks! I went through with the trade so am hoping they'll stretch enough. I'm in Seattle so I'm gonna pop on over to Blue Owl to see if Jay can handle hemming 25oz

@Seth:

@seamill. I don't have a clear answer for you, so I'll ramble a bit.

It seems to me, if you are willing to sell and rebuy anyway, that you have little to lose by trading the 32 for the 33, except the risk the waist stretches too much with the 33.

It's not exactly an apples to apples comparison because the 33s have been hot soaked. So you are measuring a hot soaked pair to a "stock" pair. The 32s might tighten up more once they too are hot soaked and therefore measure smaller. Both will stretch some in the thighs whether you soak them or not. And both will stretch in the waistband too. An hour is not enough time to get a sense of what the thighs will do. Mine were a bit painful for a good two weeks of wear before the thighs relaxed enough.

Also, you might end up deciding according to the thigh measurements and then end up with a waist that's too big. That leads me to another possibility - if you are really having trouble sizing according to the thigh measurements, then the 666 model might not be a good fit for you. The 634-XHS might be better. There you can focus on the waist and not worry about the thigh: it will generally have enough room.

Thanks for the info! Funny enough I just sold my 634-XHS because they were too big - haha. I have big thighs but the cut is too wide/relaxed for my proportions (no ass). I actually have a pair of 666S in 33 that fit just fine, but the cut on these seem to be much slimmer. I went through with the trade and they'll be here tomorrow. If they fit at least a little bit like the 32s then I'll put some stock into them stretching and start wearing them. The pain seems to be worth it due to these evo pics 

Sizing question for you folks. I made the mistake of sizing these down one to account for th waist stretching (size 32, normally 33). Unfortunately my thighs are absolutely suffocating and I dont feel any give. Now the good thing is I found a guy who is willing to trade his 33, which would have been perfect. But he had the opposite problem of them being too big and ended up hot soaking them. So now his 33s actually measure the same as my 32s but with a smaller hem (same thigh, waist, and knee). My 32s I wore for about an hour and I'm not sure how much they stretched, if at all. Do you guys think the hot soaked 33 will stretch out after being hot soaked? I'm stuck. Measurements on both are;

W: 16.5
Thigh: 11.5"
Knee: 9"

LO on the 32 is 8.25", LO on the 33 is 8". Looking for advice here. Do I take the chance or just sell and rebuy? The 32s do fit in the waist of that helps.