Ok. Thanks.

Stunning and simply superb fades Giles. Did the leather patch come out or you took it out?

Thanks for the suggestion. I actually got a chance to try out a bunch of styles of IH jeans and I know which size I should get in them now.

Giles - Thanks for asking . Even natural colored (undyed leather) leather back pockets would look lovely with the 21Oz indigo denim. Great contrast.

Is there going to be a restock on size 34 in these jeans?

Is there going to be a restock on size 34 in these jeans?

Thanks Giles and everyone else who've responded. I actually saw the 461 on http://global.rakuten.com/en/ a few days ago with black leather back pockets. They looked really cool. Does anyone own those? I don't see them on Rakuten anymore. Are those going to be remade anytime and sold on IH's website?

Does the IH-461S come with a free brass hook that comes with the IH-461 (the non-selvedge version)? Thanks.

Thanks a lot for the feedback.  If you cuff these up, can you see the selvage like the other IH selvage jeans? Giles wrote something about this in the earlier pages of this forum but I didn't quite understand it.

Some of my internet research tells me that the selvage on these jeans is not seeing although they are labelled as selvage (I do see the selvage on the fly as shown in the pictures on IH's website). Please refer to:

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/ot-emens/item/mud99-461s/

and

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/bears/item/ironheart-461se/

Thanks again.

What provides better waterproofing for leather: Mustang paste or Obenaufs?