Thanks for the heads up everyone. I have emailed customer service. Will report back!

This is how my 510HX fit. Not bad but theres a little pinch at the rise on my inside thighs that irritates me. It'll maybe loosen up with more wear. And, for everyday I'd prefer a little roomier knee and slightly wider hem.

For reference tag size 36 with 2 inches taken out of the waist

This is how my 510HX fit. Not bad but theres a little pinch at the rise on my inside thighs that irritates me. It'll maybe loosen up with more wear. And, for everyday I'd prefer a little roomier knee and slightly wider hem.

For reference tag size 36 with 2 inches taken out of the waist

May I ask what the measurement of the thigh, knee and hem of your favorite pair of straight jeans are (or what you aim for), please? Just trying to figure out what your baggy is

Also, would you say the measurements here were about right for your experience with the 35? They are from the Samurai site.

Waist, thigh, knee, inseam, hem

Also thanks for helping me figure this out!

My understanding of the S3000 is that they’re a wide straight leg rather than a wide leg. But, I guess body type is the deciding factor. I’ve seen them look big and baggie and more normal straight. Self edge model for instance makes them look like a normal straight.

My 510 36 are:
9.5
8.5 opening

Which is pretty narrow for me (6’4, 100KG)

3000’s are approx:
10.25 knee
9 opening

So theres still a decent taper from the knee to the hem. According to self edge anyway.

Do you have any old measurements from the s3000? Did you get one wash or raw?

Hey, anyone have any experience with the S3000? Specifically the tag size 36?

Given the different measuring methods it's a little tricky drilling down exactly how they size up (+1 to the iron heart crew for being great with this). I reached out to a few vendors in Japan but I've only had the approx measurements on the Samurai site.

The Self Edge measurements look perfect (rise: 12.75, thigh: 14, knee 10.25). But, their measurements differ from everywhere else. Including Samurai.

I have some 510HX but they're a little too slim for my liking and the rise a little too low (12). So the S3000's in theory make sense. Just looking for a little more clarity before I pull the trigger.

@Mizmazzle Just the top box like @endo suggested?

So shrink, belt and job done?

How much shrinkage can I expect? I’m a little hesitant because of the price

Hey, fit check on a pair of 35 888. I got this cut for the thighs. Happy enough with the fit everywhere apart from the waist. I have probably just shy of an inch of extra space right out of the box. Any more stretch and they will be too big.

I'm a little confused by measurements after trying size 34 waists from Samurai/Oni/full count (I appreciate sizes differ from the tag) and some fitting and some not. I think the mid/high rise of this cut makes, what would otherwise be a bang on waist according to measurements, a little too big

Thanks for the heads up everyone. I have emailed customer service. Will report back!

Hey,

Can I get some help re sizing, please?

TLDR:
I tried a pair of 888 36 and they were too big by an inch in the waist
I tried a pair of 888 34 and I couldn’t button them up. They were also tight everywhere else (self edge didn’t have a 35)
Are the 634 in a size 34 a good idea?

My info:
Thighs: ~25
Waist: ~34.5 (I don’t own a perfect fitting pair of pants)
Height: 6’4
Weight: 95KG/210IB
Build: lean

Note on thighs* I usually lift. But, I had knee surgery a few months ago. I’ve since lost some size in the legs and expect to add it back on over the next 6 months.

I think a good bet is a 34/34.5 waist (to stretch an inch) with a ~13+ thigh in a straight fit.

I tried the full count 1103 (15oz) in a 34 and they fit snug in the waist, just right in the thigh, but felt tight in the crotch. They measure ~ 11.75 front rise and 13 upper thigh.

I recently took a somewhat misinformed punt on a pair of Samurai S510XX 36 (now for sale) with the following measurements per the iron heart measuring guide:
Waist laid flat: 18
Front rise: 12
Back rise: 17
Thigh 13.75
Knee: 9.5
Hem: 8.5

They’re over an inch too big in the waist. I can wear them high on my hips but then I’m constantly pushing them down and conscious of the faff.

An 888 size 36 has a front rise ~12.5 and back rise of 16.9. A 34 634 has a 11 front rise, 15.5 rear, and a slightly smaller thigh at 13.3. Given my height, thigh and waist will this model and size be too small?

Some other questions, please:
How much will the rise area loosen, stretch and mould?

How much will the thigh stretch? I’ve read contrasting answers. Some say they won’t stretch, others say they have gotten 1/2 an inch.

Should I talk directly to iron heart to see if I can get a 634, size 34, with a slightly longer rise and bigger thigh, if possible? (Having seen that thing suggested here a few times)

Are there any models I have overlooked considering the above?

Thanks