2013 Autumn/Winter Pipeline

[Max Power]

Why not just do both, raw and one washed? Gives the raw guys certanty about the final measurements and the faint at heart can buy onewash right away?

[Giles]

Because guessing what number to get when there is one variation is difficult enough, when you double the options it gets harder still.  Plus we have to have more stock, which takes up space and requires greater investment etc etc etc

[superfuzz]

Blanket-lined would be f-in sweet!

[simonc]

Are we doing the flannel lined work pants you put on your to-do list last year?

[Giles]

Not on the horizon

[Finn666]

G. how does this sounds:

101J's final version + corduroy collar?

and o/course i do understand your pov…totally fine with me.
i just always wished one of IH's denim jackets would come with a beige corduroy collar. just a badass detail imo!

[simonc]

…just add blanket lined and you have the ultimate denim jacket on the planet.

[cc.rider]

the final denim jacket was already made. the sexih18…...in the 23oz denim

[urbanwoodsman]

@cc.rider:

the final denim jacket was already made. the sexih18…...in the 23oz denim

It only fit size large and under due to sizing issues, iirc.

[Nerkg]

Just my opinion but why would lined denim be good? I like denim in my denim, lining in my regular jackets. Wondering what is good about it.. Mabye I'm missing something good

[Giles]

Lee Stormrider is one of THE classic denim jackets…..

[urbanwoodsman]

@Nerkg:

Just my opinion but why would lined denim be good? I like denim in my denim, lining in my regular jackets. Wondering what is good about it.. Mabye I'm missing something good

Warmth?

[Nerkg]

I hear ya. Just saying why? I like crisp creases, a bit thinner jacket, potential for holes with years of wear

[mclaincausey]

Exactly G. Iconic. The final is type 3 based.

[Nerkg]

@mclaincausey:

Exactly G. Iconic. The final is type 3 based.

And way over priced. WAY

[tatmantall]

Perhaps the jacket is expensive but I hardly feel that ANY of us can ever say something is overpriced because not a single person I have ever saw making this proclamation has ever had the total overhead figures available to understand how a product must be priced in order for the manufacturer AND retailer to still come out on top and not be in the red. Sorry nerk its not a statement just directed at what you just posted but in the last few month I've seen the word overpriced thrown around in a rather haphazard manner that bothers me. It may be because for the last 12 years I've supported myself by my art (not the computer variety but art thats still done in the old fashioned done-by-hand style) and understand just how much work is put into things that people seldom realize.  Just an observation.

[cc.rider]

i don't think that anybody that owns the sexih18 regrets buying it.

too bad they didn't make a size bigger for you urbanwoodsman. i'm sure would appreciate the sexih18.

classic does not always = ultimate.

but….every body has an opinion.

[mclaincausey]

It's not unusual for a retailer to have a 50% gross margin. IH, SE, and their suppliers all have make money on the deal. That's just business; I can't tell if they are making "unfair" margins or not, but again, 50% is not considered unusual and it's their right to charge what they think their product is worth, and our right to walk away if that's too high. To know if you were being gouged (I define that as a retailer gross margin over 50%) you'd have to have full view of the value network supplying the product, or at least knowledge of the cost of goods sold to the retailer. Or the price could just be so totally out of whack that you could safely assume a gouge.

So to me the final jacket is too expensive, but not necessarily overpriced.

[simonc]

How long is this 101J in the back?

[zwer]

@Giles:

Lee Stormrider is one of THE classic denim jackets…..

This.