I cannot sleep!
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Hello all - For the last 4 months I really don't know why but I cannot sleep for the life of me! I cut out caffeine for a few weeks and didn't notice a change, I tried regular bedtimes but still no change.
Once I'm asleep I tend to stay asleep, but its the getting to sleep thats the issue. I just stay in bed for hours at a time and cannot get comfy, my mind starts racing and I end up getting frustrated at myself. Can anyone suggest anything for me to try? Any products to try or superfoods to eat, please let me know! Thanks in advance
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limit screen exposure for a few hours before trying to sleep is a great place to start.
Melatonin is pretty gentle and can work well
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I try to be tired before I sleep. Otherwise I smoke cannabis or drink a beer and breathe. Sorry to hear you are going through this.
I couldn’t find the exact quote, but this man likes to say we should die every day, live so much that we collapse into sleep.
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First of all, it's a very common problem, don't worry. It sucks, though.
I guess you don't sleep in the daytime. Try to find fixed bedtime hours, like 10pm-6am, don't spent time in bed out of these times. Get up at the same time regularly even if you didn't sleep much. By that you will force the sleep to come back during the times wanted.
Learn to 'get down' in the evening - within the last 2-3 hours before bedtime no physical exercise, no mental or emotional stress, no stimulating substances like coffee, tea, cigarettes, coke. No blue light from screens.
Some people are successful with a psychological method called the 'chair of troubles': before you go to bed sit down and rethink the troubles you have on your mind, then - like your clothes - leave them there before you go to bed. Of course, they will come up once you lie down, but then try to send them back to the chair again.
If you cannot fall asleep within an hour, don't stay in bed, get up again and do something really boring (laundry, dishes, whatever) and retry later.
Ask your GP to do a general check-up and blood test (like thyroid hormon). Prescription drugs that may help are Pregabalin, Amitriptyline or Mirtazapine, none of those with addiction profiles or changing your personality (but often helping and providing good, physiological sleep). Melatonin is - at least in the EU - not recommended for long-term use. Don't take benzodiazepines.
If nothing helps, ask your GP to refer you to a sleep specialist or a sleep lab.
And don't trust over the counter drugs, dietary supplement or 'super foods', that's nonsense - at least from a scientific standpoint.
Hope that helps.
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Hello all - For the last 4 months I really don't know why but I cannot sleep for the life of me! I cut out caffeine for a few weeks and didn't notice a change, I tried regular bedtimes but still no change.
Once I'm asleep I tend to stay asleep, but its the getting to sleep thats the issue. I just stay in bed for hours at a time and cannot get comfy, my mind starts racing and I end up getting frustrated at myself. Can anyone suggest anything for me to try? Any products to try or superfoods to eat, please let me know! Thanks in advance
Have you tried a mindfulness app like Headspace?
I have found their sleep activities to be very beneficial for stopping me endlessly mulling over pointless work shit and getting to sleep.
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Trying to spend a few hours outside in sunlight is supposed to help too. But I take an over the counter sleeping pill when I don't work. I think long term use is causing memory loss though.
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…something a little more helpful, hot bath, warm glass of Bovine excretion ( milk ) or what I do is read a book or three in bed.
Lights out in London! 
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… alcohol or cannabis may make you fall asleep easier (and be fun), but don't provide a good sleep.
Yea that’s not true for all. Yikes. As if regular life provides a good sleep these days. Be careful what you read. Experience is the best teacher. Life is not lived in a “clinical trial”. It’s way more complex than we understand. Do what you like.
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And now that cannabis research is being done by people who actually use cannabis, information related to other cannbinoids and their analogs are coming out. CBN cannabinol, is actually quite helpful in promoting sleep. As well as CBG. And with the “entourage” effect of multiple cannabinoids, other benefits could be studied and understood. People in Colorado keep their “reclaim” solventless oil (after it has been heated and smoked), and put it into gel caps. It has helped many many people with sleep issues and general well-being.
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Ask your GP to do a general check-up and blood test (like thyroid hormon). Prescription drugs that may help are Pregabalin, Amitriptyline or Mirtazapine, none of those with addiction profiles or changing your personality (but often helping and providing good, physiological sleep). Melatonin is - at least in the EU - not recommended for long-term use. Don't take benzodiazepines.
If nothing helps, ask your GP to refer you to a sleep specialist or a sleep lab.
Tried to book into the GP but they can't get me in due to be swamped with everything else. Feel like im running out of options, will try to use headspace like another user suggesed - Thanks!
limit screen exposure for a few hours before trying to sleep is a great place to start.
Melatonin is pretty gentle and can work well
boring booksJust purchased some blue light blocking glasses so will see if they do anything with screen viewing before bed. The more I stare at the ceiling I realise how uncomfortable I am in bed! I'm waiting for my new mattress from https://www.snoozelgreen.com/ which I ordered a few days ago. Also ordered an eye mask from amazon (Don't judge)
Think I'll pass on the cannabis … but appreciate the suggestions
Anyone tried those herbal tablets, Kalms or whatever they're called? -
Ask your GP to do a general check-up and blood test (like thyroid hormon). Prescription drugs that may help are Pregabalin, Amitriptyline or Mirtazapine, none of those with addiction profiles or changing your personality (but often helping and providing good, physiological sleep). Melatonin is - at least in the EU - not recommended for long-term use. Don't take benzodiazepines.
If nothing helps, ask your GP to refer you to a sleep specialist or a sleep lab.
Tried to book into the GP but they can't get me in due to be swamped with everything else. Feel like im running out of options, will try to use headspace like another user suggesed - Thanks!
limit screen exposure for a few hours before trying to sleep is a great place to start.
Melatonin is pretty gentle and can work well
boring booksJust purchased some blue light blocking glasses so will see if they do anything with screen viewing before bed. The more I stare at the ceiling I realise how uncomfortable I am in bed! I'm waiting for my new mattress from https://www.snoozelgreen.com/ which I ordered a few days ago. Also ordered an eye mask from amazon (Don't judge)
Think I'll pass on the cannabis … but appreciate the suggestions
Anyone tried those herbal tablets, Kalms or whatever they're called?My friend used to use kalms and thought they helped.
If you are based in Uk and have Vitality healthcare you get six months of the Headspace app for free
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Are you exercising? When I work out, I fall asleep fast. If I go a couple of days without working out, it takes me a long time to fall asleep.
I've also used Melatonin. It does work and is natural. I do notice that I'm a bit groggy in the mornings, though. But if I had to choose between some grogginess and only 2 hours of sleep, I'll go with the grogginess.
One last trick that I've used lots but may not be applicable. I used to play Minecraft a bit with my kids. I found that thinking of what I wanted to build before bed put me to sleep amazingly quickly and reliably. Something about the building process was so relaxing for my mind. There was no competition involved, no risk, just creativity. Maybe you can find an equivalent in your life. Like planting flowers in your garden, or thinking of a recipe to try.
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Vape some weed. Or eat some weed cookies. Edibles knock me the fuck out.
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I feel like the melatonin supplements got overlooked. Let me tell you, take 30mg of those and it’ll knock you the F out. I was taking them after I had a cyst removed from my back because all I could do was lay around all day. They will definitely put you down. I also second the edible. But I feel like you can definitely get a weed hangover if you over serve yourself. Melatonin will put you down without the grogginess next morning. Just my 2 cents. Hope you get some rest my man
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I know everybody's different, but I can tell you that as a sober guy, I sleep much more restfully and wake up less during the night now that I don't drink. With alcohol, I'd often pass out immediately then wake up on and off throughout the night. I also suggest winding down for a while before bedtime by reading a book, maybe giving yourself at least an hour of not looking at your phone or any kind of screen.
Also, melatonin definitely helps, but often you have to let it build up in your system, i.e. take it nightly for a little while to really get the proper effect. And of course the nice thing about it is that it's not habit forming.
I believe some peeps also take 5HTP for sleep?
EDIT also must add that I HIGHLY second the recommendation for exercise. It just makes everything better — physical, mental health, sleep etc.
