I cannot sleep!
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Trying to spend a few hours outside in sunlight is supposed to help too. But I take an over the counter sleeping pill when I don't work. I think long term use is causing memory loss though.
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…something a little more helpful, hot bath, warm glass of Bovine excretion ( milk ) or what I do is read a book or three in bed.
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… alcohol or cannabis may make you fall asleep easier (and be fun), but don't provide a good sleep.
Yea that’s not true for all. Yikes. As if regular life provides a good sleep these days. Be careful what you read. Experience is the best teacher. Life is not lived in a “clinical trial”. It’s way more complex than we understand. Do what you like.
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And now that cannabis research is being done by people who actually use cannabis, information related to other cannbinoids and their analogs are coming out. CBN cannabinol, is actually quite helpful in promoting sleep. As well as CBG. And with the “entourage” effect of multiple cannabinoids, other benefits could be studied and understood. People in Colorado keep their “reclaim” solventless oil (after it has been heated and smoked), and put it into gel caps. It has helped many many people with sleep issues and general well-being.
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Ask your GP to do a general check-up and blood test (like thyroid hormon). Prescription drugs that may help are Pregabalin, Amitriptyline or Mirtazapine, none of those with addiction profiles or changing your personality (but often helping and providing good, physiological sleep). Melatonin is - at least in the EU - not recommended for long-term use. Don't take benzodiazepines.
If nothing helps, ask your GP to refer you to a sleep specialist or a sleep lab.
Tried to book into the GP but they can't get me in due to be swamped with everything else. Feel like im running out of options, will try to use headspace like another user suggesed - Thanks!
limit screen exposure for a few hours before trying to sleep is a great place to start.
Melatonin is pretty gentle and can work well
boring booksJust purchased some blue light blocking glasses so will see if they do anything with screen viewing before bed. The more I stare at the ceiling I realise how uncomfortable I am in bed! I'm waiting for my new mattress from https://www.snoozelgreen.com/ which I ordered a few days ago. Also ordered an eye mask from amazon (Don't judge)
Think I'll pass on the cannabis … but appreciate the suggestions
Anyone tried those herbal tablets, Kalms or whatever they're called? -
Ask your GP to do a general check-up and blood test (like thyroid hormon). Prescription drugs that may help are Pregabalin, Amitriptyline or Mirtazapine, none of those with addiction profiles or changing your personality (but often helping and providing good, physiological sleep). Melatonin is - at least in the EU - not recommended for long-term use. Don't take benzodiazepines.
If nothing helps, ask your GP to refer you to a sleep specialist or a sleep lab.
Tried to book into the GP but they can't get me in due to be swamped with everything else. Feel like im running out of options, will try to use headspace like another user suggesed - Thanks!
limit screen exposure for a few hours before trying to sleep is a great place to start.
Melatonin is pretty gentle and can work well
boring booksJust purchased some blue light blocking glasses so will see if they do anything with screen viewing before bed. The more I stare at the ceiling I realise how uncomfortable I am in bed! I'm waiting for my new mattress from https://www.snoozelgreen.com/ which I ordered a few days ago. Also ordered an eye mask from amazon (Don't judge)
Think I'll pass on the cannabis … but appreciate the suggestions
Anyone tried those herbal tablets, Kalms or whatever they're called?My friend used to use kalms and thought they helped.
If you are based in Uk and have Vitality healthcare you get six months of the Headspace app for free
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Are you exercising? When I work out, I fall asleep fast. If I go a couple of days without working out, it takes me a long time to fall asleep.
I've also used Melatonin. It does work and is natural. I do notice that I'm a bit groggy in the mornings, though. But if I had to choose between some grogginess and only 2 hours of sleep, I'll go with the grogginess.
One last trick that I've used lots but may not be applicable. I used to play Minecraft a bit with my kids. I found that thinking of what I wanted to build before bed put me to sleep amazingly quickly and reliably. Something about the building process was so relaxing for my mind. There was no competition involved, no risk, just creativity. Maybe you can find an equivalent in your life. Like planting flowers in your garden, or thinking of a recipe to try.
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Vape some weed. Or eat some weed cookies. Edibles knock me the fuck out.
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I feel like the melatonin supplements got overlooked. Let me tell you, take 30mg of those and it’ll knock you the F out. I was taking them after I had a cyst removed from my back because all I could do was lay around all day. They will definitely put you down. I also second the edible. But I feel like you can definitely get a weed hangover if you over serve yourself. Melatonin will put you down without the grogginess next morning. Just my 2 cents. Hope you get some rest my man
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I know everybody's different, but I can tell you that as a sober guy, I sleep much more restfully and wake up less during the night now that I don't drink. With alcohol, I'd often pass out immediately then wake up on and off throughout the night. I also suggest winding down for a while before bedtime by reading a book, maybe giving yourself at least an hour of not looking at your phone or any kind of screen.
Also, melatonin definitely helps, but often you have to let it build up in your system, i.e. take it nightly for a little while to really get the proper effect. And of course the nice thing about it is that it's not habit forming.
I believe some peeps also take 5HTP for sleep?
EDIT also must add that I HIGHLY second the recommendation for exercise. It just makes everything better — physical, mental health, sleep etc.
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Just saw this thread. Terrible. I Spent 6 months getting 4 or less hours of sleep a night. When you’re at that level of insomnia and someone says stuff like a warm bath or melatonin you want to flog them. I had tried everything. Most over the counter meds develop a tolerance too quickly. Weed had me awake and super stoned (yes, indica, yes cbn). Benzos are awesome! You also build a tolerance and they are as addictive af. I agree, stay away. Only thing that worked was a trazodone prescription. I would have preferred not to go scripts but by day 4 in a row of no sleep i wanted to run into traffic. Cognitive behavioral therapy is also recommended in conjunction. At the end of the day you need to deal with the things in your mind keeping you awake. Good luck. It was really one of the most painful experiences of my life.
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I've been an insomniac for most my life and the thing that realy helped me was advice I got from a college professor who was also an Insomniac.
Basicly you have to treat your bed like the pavlov dog and the bell. If you see your bed, you will think of sleep.
When you lay in bed and can't sleep after 15min, get back up and do something else. Watch some tv, do some chores anything that is calm and doesn't involve to much thought. after 1h you try again.
You will sleep eventualy but it can take a couple days - weeks to get it right. For the most part now, I fall asleep pretty easy but I still wake up every night usualy I can fall asleep almost right away. If I'm out of luck, I still have to get up and repeat 2-4 times.
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I haven't taken any sleeping pills for over 3 weeks now. But I have been working at least 80 hours a week. At night I am so tired I can barely keep my eyes open.
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Just remembered this bit I read about our adrenal glands and how stress/diet/etc affects them…
There was one thing that said ideally you should eat less carbs, more protein in the morning and have something more carb-focused in the evening, as it can make for better sleep. Might be worth a look!
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If you have time, please try to listen to Andrew Huberman PhD’s podcast. He is a professor of neurobiology and opthamology at Stanford. Good communicator. He spent a month on sleep (episodes 2-5 I believe). Very worthwhile. Lots of easily actionable steps. Good science. Helped me a ton.
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