IH-526PJ - 21oz Selvedge Denim Modified Type III Jacket - Indigo
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Or make a road trip out of it and pop down to one one the stores in Germany or soon Vienna @JimBobTTD
I went last week and got to try on different sizes. Quite an adventure.This is the kind of thing that I would have done in my younger days. The idea is still very tempting…
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My mind is made up - it is this. I need this.
I am having a horrendous time trying to work out sizing, though. I have an ancient Levi's Trucker that I have measured (the Iron Heart way, as in the video) and it does not seem to make sense.
Shoulders 54cm, suggesting that an XXXL will be too small. If I measure it from shoulder to shoulder straight across, it is 48cm. With the buttons done up and my shoulders all the way back like a weirdo, it is just a touch tight.
Chest 62cm, again, so an XXXL will be too small. The jacket is quite large in the chest and I can layer a shirt and hoody (this is good) and have over 3" of space left.
Waist 54cm, so an XXL will be right
I wear a Levis M denim shirt but an Iron Heart XL fits me perfectly. 33-34" waist IH jeans. 40" suit jackets which are far too tight at the moment (I had an accident and an operation so I have not been able to do any exercise in 18 months) but normally are ok.
I am not a particularly muscular man, nor am I all that fat. At 6' and 86kg, I could do with losing quite a few kilos, that much I will admit, but I am not a large man by any stretch of the imagination. Yes, it is 10kg.
Sorry about the mixed measurements…I am an ex-pat Brit from the late 70s. So I think in inches, do not really understand them, and only have access to cm tape measurers.
I was also going crazy over the size until I finally decided on an M.
Thing is, when it comes to jackets, in my experience, you should be taking a P2P as a primary measurement work the rest of the fit from there. If the jacket fits in the chest, everything else should fall into place. Many tailors will tell you that a shoulder width isn't actually vitally important - some claim that it doesn't even exist as a measurement - which is something I kind of agree with. Shoulder width will affect the length of the sleeves but other than that, won't have considerable effect on the rest of the fit and the way the jacket feels on you. Well, as long as it's just a few centimeters of difference, of course. So I'd primarily make sure that the P2P fits.
The M that I got should've been spray-painted over me at a 21.something" chest but it's not. There's enough room for me to layer with a hoodie or something. And we're close in height and weight.
In any case, I really, really wouldn't recommend an XXL. I think you'd be swimming in it. L or maybe an XL should work just fine.
EDIT: grammar
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@JimBobTTD, the bottom line is measurements are deceiving and you have to try it on to be sure. I have an XXL 526PJ that fits perfectly. I have an XXXL IHJ-69 that fits perfectly. The measurements of the two jackets are very different. I bought an IHSH-213 @Kentaurus last week in XXL. I tried to fit into XXXL heavy flannels, but they were too small.
I'm about your size 5'11", 90Kgs (and need to lose a couple on the waist!), and I wear an XXL perfectly. I'd stop wringing my hands and order an XXL and an XL. Send back the one that doesn't fit. Or keep one for layering and one for wearing with just a t-shirt. You know, so you never have to be without it!!! Trust me, you'll want to!
I can upload a picture later, but I'm not home right now.
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Here’s an XXL 526PJ - just purchased last month (I love this jacket :)) — I returned the XXXL because it was too big all over.
Here’s an XXXL IHJ-69 corduroy in black — I returned the XXL because it was too tight in the chest and waist. Great jacket too!
The point is you need to try them on to be sure.
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Perfect fit on the 526 @GBurke !
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That looks like a good fit, @GBurke
Thanks for the tips, too. I am trying to find a way around ordering two (or more!) sizes and sending one back. Postage is steep here. I cannot see another way around it, though, what with it not being possible to try on anything locally.
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That looks like a good fit, @GBurke
Thanks for the tips, too. I am trying to find a way around ordering two (or more!) sizes and sending one back. Postage is steep here. I cannot see another way around it, though, what with it not being possible to try on anything locally.
You can buy return postage from us for USD20:
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With a t-shirt and an Iron Heart flannel shirt:
108cm chest
48cm shouldersSo, it looks like an XXL will be the right choice for my shoulders and will give a 3" clearance in the chest, much like my old Levi's jacket.
I shall give it a punt. With return postage at £16, not such a brutal fee to send it back if it does not fit.
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With a t-shirt and an Iron Heart flannel shirt:
108cm chest
48cm shouldersSo, it looks like an XXL will be the right choice for my shoulders and will give a 3" clearance in the chest, much like my old Levi's jacket.
I shall give it a punt. With return postage at £16, not such a brutal fee to send it back if it does not fit.
@JimBobTTD go for it! Post some photos when you get your jacket, too. I’d love to see them.
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@JimBobTTD you've made the right choice with the XXL in my opinion.
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Annoyingly, something went wrong at UPS's warehouse in Denmark last night and the jacket was not delivered today. It will be here by end of play on Tuesday. Another five days! I shall post photos.
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It has arrived! And on a Sunday, no less.
The fit is very nice indeed. I have tried it on with a t-shirt, shirt and hoody underneath - it gets cold in Sweden, and this is the yardstick. If it is too tight for that, it can only be used in the short period of early autumn and mid/late spring. It fits perfectly in the shoulder and chest. The length is excellent.
The sleeves are a bit on the long side, though…even with a bit of movement upwards when the elbow creases come in, they are long and leave just the tips of my fingers peeking out.
Photos when I can!
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@JimBobTTD Great news. As a fellow Brit living in Scandi-land I understand the need for flexibilty and warmth in your outerwear. After my first type III I came to the decision that the way forward was multiple jackets. Watch out for that
When it comes to sleeve length, unless you have long arms yourself then a bit of excess at the wrist is the norm. It’s an often repeated point but Haraki-San prefers longer arms on jackets so that they still cover the wrists when arms are stretched out from the body. This is the position of a motorcycle rider when holding the handlebars of the bike.
I flip the cuff of nearly all my IH jackets.
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@JimBobTTD Great news. As a fellow Brit living in Scandi-land I understand the need for flexibilty and warmth in your outerwear. After my first type III I came to the decision that the way forward was multiple jackets. Watch out for that
When it comes to sleeve length, unless you have long arms yourself then a bit of excess at the wrist is the norm. It’s an often repeated point but Haraki-San prefers longer arms on jackets so that they still cover the wrists when arms are stretched out from the body. This is the position of a motorcycle rider when holding the handlebars of the bike.
I flip the cuff of nearly all my IH jackets.
@neph93 you are right, arm length gets mentioned a lot, by me also. I'd love to take a straw poll of just how many IH customers ride motorbikes compared to those that don't. The practical intentions of this clothing has been outshadowed by the quality and aesthetic that it's loyal customers love, I'd fancy!
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I'd love to take a straw poll of just how many IH customers ride motorbikes compared to those that don't.
In Japan, pretty much all of them. Rest of the world less so. But that isn’t the point, the point is the designer wants them that way. And as you say, the T-Rex’s amongst us generally find that the plus points with IH gear far outweigh an inch too much on the sleeves.
Also @Alex has gorilla arms [emoji1]
