IH-888-XHSib - 25oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Ind/blk
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@Filthy:
@Crit_Obs 1000 % these. Especially if you like HEAVY. Don't get me wrong, the UHR is pretty great. But these are really on a whole other level of awesome. This denim has the same smooth/soft hand that the UHR has. But they feel substantially more heavy. By the numbers these are only supposed to be 2 oz heavier per yard. But they feel magnitudes heavier. Also the indigo is the deepest, darkest indigo I have never seen with an exponential potential for fading. These are going to have some incredible tate ochi and incredible electric blues. 1000% these.
But I think if you use PayPal you can get a free return. So why not buy both pairs and return whichever you don't like? I'd email them and make sure this is true for certain.
I’d be very surprised if the 888 doesn’t show up in the regular XHS down the road. It is a perfect cut for heavy denim. So unless the black dye is the dealmaker, you’ll see XHS in other cuts and I suspect the 888 too at some point. The UHR is pretty much done. All that was left of that denim has been made into jeans. So that tips the scales perhaps?
These are my two favourite IH denims. If i had to live without one I’d be hard pressed to choose. The XHS has an amazing weight and heft to it. The weave is thick and coarse and the fading is high contrast, and vertical. It’s a slow development but gives a dramatic result.
The UHR a very different beast from the XHS despite comparable weights. It is quite a light indigo to start of with, it is woven much more densely and has an even, almost silky hand. Hairy too. It fades quickly, quicker than any other IH denim. They are less contrasting than XHS but still quite dramatic. The UHR also loves water. The denim gets better and better with washing.
Hopefully that little run down gives you a better idea of the differing qualities of the receptive denims. With a sword over my head I’d probably be forced to choose the XHS but it really would be a close run thing.
Thanks a lot for your insights guys @neph93 & @Filthy and sorry for not thanking you earlier, have been fighting with a bout of depression and being busy over the last while.
In more positive news, I managed to secure a trainee position at a big 4 company, starting in June; they are not as stuffy as more traditional law offices and I’ve been led to believe jeans could be an acceptable attire on regular days when not meeting clients or some such. You can see where this is going… A new crisp pair will definitely be needed. The problem now is that I don’t know whether to go for the 888 or the 555 iteration of these, I have the 555-03 and I wear them most days despite the fit being off. I tried the 888 UHR on at a local store (I thought retailers didn’t have it but apparently some of them do) and it’s nice but for my physique & size not remarkably different from the 555, it’s the room in the knee that sets them apart. 777 in regular XHS could be an option but the front rise is too low.
Sorry for posting this general ramble here on this thread but wanted to thank the guys for their comparative analyzis re: xhsib vs. UHR.
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I’d go with whichever one measures up best in terms of thigh/waist ratio. The 555 generally has a bigger waist compared to tagsize than the 888, and obviously a smaller thigh. Fit the waist first, then worry about the thigh.
Sorry to hear about your illness, but congratulations on the new opportunity. I wish you the best, both with the job and keeping The Black Dog at bay.
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@Crit_Obs best wishes to you brother.
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Thanks a ton for your wishes guys, highly appreciated.
Regarding the sizing… Did you pick the same size in xhsib & uhr? The measurements seem very similar for the same tag size, despite the latter being loomstate. If I kind of have the potential uhr size nailed down, would I be asking for trouble going down 1 size on the xhsib? The uhr I tried on was a snug-ish but not tight fit on the waist and I could soak and wash them with no fear.
Sizing questions are mundane, I know.
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@Crit_Obs grab your favorite pair of jeans and measure the waist. Whatever you get subtract 1 inch from that and that is what your size is. Pretty much what neph said but remember the waist is going to stretch an inch and the jeans should be difficult to get on the first couple wears, and very difficult to button. My waist is still snug enough that I have to slightly exhale when I button mine up.
Use this to see how they measure, so you are measuring the same way.
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@Crit_Obs I shouldn't have said size… I mean waist measurement. This is almost always different than the tagged size.
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So hard to get the full range of color if the lighting ain't just right…
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Wow, colours are looking amazing. Hoping to get my hands on a pair soon!
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@Filthy:
@Crit_Obs I shouldn't have said size… I mean waist measurement. This is almost always different than the tagged size.
I blame you Filthy, all the way from Canada and we don't even know each other :-)…lol
But alas it was you who compelled me to purchase the 25oz 888-XHSib Indigo/Black 38's....just got the 21oz straight cuts, sublime, great jeans, appreciate all your knowledge on the subject.
This pair looks epic, I'm a 38 around the waist, the pair I ordered came in at 38.5, they had a pair of 36's that measured 37.2, but I know with the wash, they'll shrink, and want them to be comfortable. Talked with Adam about sizing, hope I made the right call with the 38's...if they shrank to a 37, that would be perfect.
Have a pair of Gustin in 36, very tight around the waist, snug on the thighs, waist has stretched out, but too small for my comfort level. For perspective, I'm 6'4", 230 lbs, long legs...;-)
I've been through the discussion here, and have read a few other posts in another forum Samurai vs IH, and am/was thinking of also grabbing the Limited 25oz Shingen Takeda's flag slogan model S5000XX25OZ-20th, and hoped you'd share your thoughts on comparing the two heavy denims....
Glad to be a member, glad to have two pairs of fantastic jeans, going to take the 21oz in tomorrow to get them hemmed.
Ohh...and would you cuff the 888XHSib's?
Thanks and cheers....
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@Phrank hey buddy… sorry I was working out of the country... and I kind of find and peck here (don't read everything). You're better off tagging me @Filthy anyway:
I was not impressed with the 25 oz Samurai Jeans at all. Mine are balled up in the garage been sitting there for months. In fact you can have my pair for free. You pay shipping. I probably can get them to you for under $15 if we go cheap. You might have to wait a while though because I am only home for today then I have to go back out of town for work again. They are size 38. They may or may not have a bit of concrete on them. But I think that should brush/ wash off after a while. When I get a chance I will wash them and clean them up.
Iron Heart is way, way better in my humble opinion.
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Hi Filthy - what a great offer, I'll PM you and definitely will take care of shipping and I insist on at sending you some funds towards the jeans, I'll send you a PM later today.
The Iron Heart, Lord Thunderin' Jaysus, glad I read your thoughts on how to button….that was some fun. So I've washed them once, turned inside out, have now left the first three buttons done up.
These jeans, along with the 6's 21oz straight cut, are the nicest jeans I've ever worn.
Next step for me after wearing and working them in for awhile will be working on getting the sizing perfect, the colour of these jeans is sublime, and they feel great.
So I've read your washing routine to get them down to size right.
I get what you were saying about shrinkage on the thighs, so I purposely used a delicate 20 minute machine wash on hot with no spin, drip dry, and had to inhale a tad to get them done up.
Still loose on the sides, and could all round be a more snug fit, but baby steps on these.
The denim from this company is super nice, as someone who also has a hobby of collecting and restoring antique straight razors (Wade & Butcher, GB, etc.,) this denim would make a superb razor strop....a lot of people don't realize, that aside from stropping the razor on leather, many would simply use their the thigh area on their jeans to strop up a razor, or fashion a strop out of an old pair of jeans, puts a nice edge on the razor.
Heading out for some errands with the 25oz on, still feel like walking around in cardboard pants, but their quickly softening up.
Sheesh, if I had of grabbed the 36 that measured in at 37.2, think I would of been in a world of hurt.
Again, thanks Filthy, had a pair of needle nose pliers ready, and absolutely needed them to get the top button done up, that one's broken in now....take care brother and thanks for all the time and information you've shared
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Sweet. Have a good one!
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@Filthy:
I was not impressed with the 25 oz Samurai Jeans at all.
Care to expand on that? I'm curious to hear why you don't like them. Thx
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Thanks @twin
So I actually gave them their first soak/wash not long ago. Letting them air dry till tomorrow or however long it takes. Did see a lot of indigo wash out, can't wait to see them dried.
I also threw on my OD 18 vintage denim…they feel SOOO lightweight now. I wore the 25oz every day since I got them Feb 4th I believe. So About 70 days.
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@Filthy:
I was not impressed with the 25 oz Samurai Jeans at all.
Care to expand on that? I'm curious to hear why you don't like them. Thx
I did not care for the denim, it didn't seem as heavy as an Iron Heart 25 oz (was more like an Iron Heart 18 oz). Also the softness and smooth hand of the Iron Heart XHS has me spoiled. It's not fact or anything… just my biased opinion.
Also I bought it for a fast fading pair of jeans. But I was just meh on the colors.
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