IH-888S-SBG - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise SBG
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I like my 888 as slim as can be (for an 888), both of mine have stretched over 1.5" to be comfortable from a tight-but-not-uncomfortable waist, which is the tightest spot on me. It only took a couple days to 'max out' both of them. They definitely hug the body after a hot soak, but they're super comfy afterwards and the waist is not restrictive at all. Love this cut.
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@natefreezy it's not necessary because they're once-washed already, but I always hot soak to remove any additional shrinkage and then wear them for a little while they're still damp to form them to my body. I know it's weird and my wife thinks i'm crazy, but it works for me to dial in the fit.
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@WhiskeySandwich someone should make a wife’s version of the forum where our ladies can vent and laugh at all the absurd behaviors we display. I used to be kinda shy about all the photos of myself wearing jeans in my phone, or the rolling about on the ground to get tight jeans buttoned, or the putting on wet denims and walking around like Frankenstein. Nowadays, that’s just normal in our house haha
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@Mizmazzle LMAO, right?! the womens do much stranger things with their clothes i think. I do my weird things in the name of comfort usually, like obsessively measuring shirts and pants, and soaking clothes, but she sacrifices comfort for style. To each their own, as long as we can make fun of each other for it! Ultimately - everyone is a weirdo in their own way.
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Creases set. Man this fabric is comfy…
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Haha exactly what happens in our house @Mizmazzle @WhiskeySandwich
I think my favorite is when she sees me pull out the Edding to note the wear days on the inside of my pocket bags. The face she made when I told her about it first was absolutely hilarious!
On another note, here’s a not so scientific but really interesting proof to what we were discussing earlier regarding the sizing / stretch.
What you see is my worn down 34 888s five wear days after the last wash and the fresh 35 888 SBG, technically also five wear days after their last wash.
The edges of the waist just match perfectly…
Edit:
Both jeans are now at a perfect 90cm (35.4 Inches)Use it or lose it.
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Hahaha man, I feel all of y'all on that — I think the thing my girlfriend makes fun of me for the most is "gah everything you wear is so HEAVY and grrrrrrrrr (usually makes some kind of mannish bro-face)." Tbh she's right, but as I mentioned, I'm just used to it — even wearing SBG felt way light after so much XHS. "Do I even have pants on? Better check."
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Dis go here?
I've never owned a pair of the 21oz fabric, but if it is anything like the 21oz SGB I get all the all the buzz is about. The fabric is amazing and comfy out of the bag. I can tell this is going to be a long haul denim, definitely in it for the next two years or more.
I missed out on the 32s so I size up to a 33. It is a little baggier than I have been wearing for some years now but I will say it is nice to be able to get out of my jeans without my wife's help.
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@weftyarn that how ya know your work paid off!
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@Richard Yup, these haven't stretched quite as much, but ended up about exactly the measurements of my other 888's. Glad I got a pair on the smaller end of the next size up. Also, worn for about 12 days now and no fades to speak of, just getting slight shine though. I'm sure the shine will give way to gray at some point. These are so soft and comfy, and despite the fuzziness, also seem to be easy enough to keep clean.
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@natefreezy I would invite you to think about a few things before you size down. Here’s some of my personal experience with SBG. First, I’ve had 2 separate pairs. Both I’ve had to sell because they got too small. SBG does not stretch like 21oz indigo does. Secondly, when sizing. I didn’t think of the future. I just through about right now. First pair 32, second 34. Now I’d take a 36 in a different cut. But they fit great for the first year or so and then either the thigh or waist was too small (usually thigh) so consider if you plan to wear these years down the line as your body changes. Last consideration, movement. I started skinny. Now prefer 888 or loose fits. All basically from range of motion. Really want to be active in mine too. So depending on occupation and free time it may be advisable to go TTS or even size up depending on how you will wear them.
That said. If you’re gonna rock them your style for a year or so and move on. Sure size down for fun. Future and long term wear. Stick with size or size up.
Enjoy the SBG fades!
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It seems that the "will stretch" vs. "won't stretch" topic is quite controversial based on the comments in this thread so far. There's only one way to find out for me and that is to wear them myself when they arrive.
Edited to add that I'll share my personal experience with these here soon once I break them in.
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Oh and if I'm not mistaken, the SBG earlier in this thread used to shrink once washed, but the new SBG is one-washed and will stretch. This is an important factor to consider when reading some of the comments and making an opinion before purchasing.
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FWIW - My SBG was 32.1" when brand new, and stopped stretching at 33.9". Only took 2-3 days. It's still at 33.9" on day 14.
To add - my 21ib went from 31.9" to 33.9" in the same time, and remains 33.9" after months of wear.
