Are you a RAW (STF), Selvedge, un-sanforized loyalist ?
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@simon- i'm sorry to say it, but N&F is mediocre at best man. do yourself a huge favor and pass on that. Its worth it to get one really nice item instead of getting something early and not having that itch that burns a hole in your pocket. Trust me, i have done these things before, and you will have buyers regret when you go back online and think to yourself "man, i should have waited and gotten my 634s/301s/3001s etc.." you know? i'm just trying to give you my honest opinion man.
@giles- Oh really???? dope! ok, so its just the Frontier series that isnt being made anymore. ok, i get it now. cool, thanks giles.
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Take a look at the 5100:
http://www.flat-head.co.uk/html/Specials.html
A little more than the 8005A, but a classic straight cut and you won't have to bugger around with the cinch.. G
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if Giles had anything with old arcs and tabs, in my size, for a deal dude, its not a matter of how much its a matter of how long till it gets here!
and to touch on the nudie v FH, people buy nudies because they have all the modern, slim, hipster cuts. Flat head is a bit higher up on the food chain with premium denim and quality material and construction. Just depends on what you are looking to pay for. Def look into those 5100's tho… lucky, they have your size
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@drz:
As long as it's Indigo dyed, I'm loyal, no matter it's unsanforized or sanforized. I don't know why I don't like black denim.
drz, it's cool. To each his own, Man. But it's funny…I've noticed that San Francisco and Oakland bikers prefer black denim. Whenever I ride BART, I always see bikers in black denim rather than indigo. Remember JackCrank, the dude introduced by LandoCal -- who pummeled his 9301 Slim SuperBlack jeans in a matter of 4 months (but later got them fixed expertly by Kiya's recommended tailor) ? He is an avid biker and he seems to prefer black as well. I dunno...but bikers and black denim seem to go together, at least in The San Francisco Bay Area.
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The only thing I prefer about unsanforized is the crunchiness I get after the original shrink. Selvedge doesn't matter to me much, but that being said, the only jeans I have that is not selvedge is my brown cotton duck jeans that don't come in selvedge.
Raw is a must though, I'll never go back to pre distressed or stonewashed. My Imperial Kings have been beat up and washed to the point where the thighs are pretty much stone washed, but I love the contrast between the thighs and the lower part of the legs
High contrast fades for me have never been a priority for me and my jeans reflect it, after as many washes my jeans go through in a year, there's not much in the way of honeycombing behind the knees
The one thing I've never wrapped my mind around is button fly though. While I'm all for tradition, they're a real bitch to open and close after my fifth or sixth margarita. I'm probably the only one on this board that will go for the new Superblack jeans with the zipper over the button fly
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BUTTON FLY ATARIIIII!!!!!!!! lol
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There was a zipper scene involving Ben Stiller in the movie "There's Something about Mary" (Mary played by Cameron Diaz) – that I'll never forget ! OUCH ! Seul is right DougNg. Better to walk around with your button fly undone or fucked up than have your thing ripped up by the zipper !
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i can undo the button about as fast as a zipper. unless you are talking about the first couple of days… but yeah man, i dont see the zipper as that much of a problemo. aside from needing to undo your belt and top button to pee. thats about the extent of the 'annoyingness' i would say.
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@simon626:
http://www.denimbaronline.com/store/index.asp?DEPARTMENT_ID=38&ITEM_BRAND_ID=12&ALL_ITEMS=Y
Some Acne Jeans are on sale.
To pass or not to pass?Simon, as your den mother I think you should not waste your money. Compared to your Iron Hearts, you'll hate them. Once you've been "ruined" by Iron Heart jeans, any other brand is going to look paltry and weak (except for possibly Samurai). Save up your money and buy a pair of IH. Better yet, cruise on SuFu. I'm astounded at the deals on SuFu for virtually new IH jeans. People just keep getting the wrong fucking size (then soaking them, deeming them un-returnable), or they lose weight, gain weight, etc…there are lots of deals to be had. I bet if you keep tabs on SuFu, you'll have a new pair of perfectly fitting, relatively new Iron Hearts within a month -- for $150 off retail.
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@shubharamani:
Once you've been "ruined" by Iron Heart jeans, any other brand is going to look paltry and weak (except for possibly Samurai).
This is really horrendous advice
I have many pairs of jeans, Skulls, Sugarcanes, Flat Head, Imperial, Kicking Mule Workshop, ESEF…and more than one pair for a few of those brands...I would never call any of them paltry or weak
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This is really horrendous advice
I have many pairs of jeans, Skulls, Sugarcanes, Flat Head, Imperial, Kicking Mule Workshop, ESEF…and more than one pair for a few of those brands...I would never call any of them paltry or weak
OK, maybe I was off-base in calling other brands paltry and weak. I probably don't have a right to speak on this topic anyway because I only own IH and I'm very new to the Japanese Denim game. I don't know shit, basically. Perhaps better advice for Simon would be to cruise SuFu, looking for good deals on other premium Japanese denim brands.