Our Cars (dream or actual)
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ok wow. nothing can top that. that's a dream for me. gt3rs or even the new gt2rs
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Any of you have any opinions on the Honda Accord sport? I'm thinking this might be my next car purchase, but i'm trying to decide if I should wait til 2019 or the tail end of December 2018 when dealerships are trying to offload inventory. I'm leaning towards a 2015 but a 2016 might be on the table if the price is right. I've seen plenty around with low sub 40K mileage. I have to admit, i'm not really a sports car kinda guy but I kinda prefer this version over the standard version. The spoiler, twin exhaust and the 18" rims give it a nice touch too.
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I'm probably not the best person to weigh in on the subject, since I view cars in much the same way I view microwave ovens- they're a necessity of modern life, but I just don't care about them. That said, I own a 15 LX, and it suits my needs just fine. It's hard to go wrong with an Accord from a practical standpoint. They're utterly reliable, hold their value well, and Honda has steadily refined then so that they've been one of the best cars in their highly competitive class for years. Our long term mechanic back in Houston told us that he bought his wife an Accord because he didn't want to work on cars in his off time, and he knew with an Accord he wouldn't have to.
I don't know how much the Sport model adds to the base price, but I agree that it does look a bit less generic. If you like it, and the price is appropriate, go ahead and get it. With basic preventive maintenance, you should easily get 200k miles out of it, and 300k isn't unrealistic.
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i cannot comment on the offloading as we do ours in Jun for australian dealership's EOFY sales. USA honda's confuse me. when is it an acura not a honda and vice versa? but i've admired the older accords especially with the older 06 Euro R versions that we get over in singapore. Honda's are generally very reliable and they're definitely up there with toyota in my books. However, I can give you 1 decent competitor to think about which is the Mazda 6. (assmuming that you haven't)
i feel has the Mazda 6 is the best value in it's given it's interior quality that for a japanese manufacturer, has it's standards on par with the european models. the major disappointment i have is the CVT that most manufacturers use know which really dulls the driving experience and some units can be quite slow to react to a downshift or upshift. AFAIK mazda is the only Japanese manufacturer to stick with a traditional 6 speed automatic.
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Built like tanks and I like how they look actually. If you can get a good deal, it's a no brainer. Does Honda have the same service as Toyota where you can look up the car's maintenance history by its VIN #?..
I believe most people in the US use carfax to get a vehicle history report for things such as recalls and accidents, but I don't know if that includes a maintenance history.
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I don't know how much the Sport model adds to the base price, but I agree that it does look a bit less generic. If you like it, and the price is appropriate, go ahead and get it. With basic preventive maintenance, you should easily get 200k miles out of it, and 300k isn't unrealistic.
The spoiler and such are purely cosmetic and don't add any extra benefits for me over a standard Accord but those things do stand out. When I was married my ex-wife and I bought a 2010 Honda CRV together and she still has it. Likewise, I want something reliable and nice to look at.
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Not knowing your budget, It’s hard for me to weigh in, but the 2018 Accord Sports are available with a 6sp manual and you can elect to get the same engine at the Civic Type R (although it is tuned for 240 hp, not 300).
Overall, The accord is a phenomenal product - bulletproof, very safe, and great residuals. Plus the Sport models are fun as hell to drive.
With that being said, what Louis said is very true - in 2016, Honda started moving nearly all automatic transmissions to CVT. While CVTs have been growing in reliability, Honda was not exactly at the forefront of the CVT development.
If you decide you prefer an automatic, and do get a CVT, I would suggest tracking down a high mileage version and see how the transmission handles (not suggesting you buy the HM one, but it will also show you where the west and tear areas are). Then you can feel more confident that you are buying something you will still enjoy in 5 years.
Another option - the new Camry really is an amazing product. Great looks, interior upgrades, and decent package options. Considering my FIL bought my wife a base economy Camry in 2009 for $9,800 and we traded it in for $7,200 in 2014 after 130k miles and 2 accidents, I’d say Camrys are up there in residual as well.
The Mazda 6 is also a great product, but you have to buy a upper level package to not feel like you bought junk, and they depreciate quite quickly (at least in here the states), so if you decide it’s not what you like, you won’t make much money back.
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Not knowing your budget, It’s hard for me to weigh in, but the 2018 Accord Sports are available with a 6sp manual and you can elect to get the same engine at the Civic Type R (although it is tuned for 240 hp, not 300).
Overall, The accord is a phenomenal product - bulletproof, very safe, and great residuals. Plus the Sport models are fun as hell to drive.
With that being said, what Louis said is very true - in 2016, Honda started moving nearly all automatic transmissions to CVT. While CVTs have been growing in reliability, Honda was not exactly at the forefront of the CVT development.
If you decide you prefer an automatic, and do get a CVT, I would suggest tracking down a high mileage version and see how the transmission handles (not suggesting you buy the HM one, but it will also show you where the west and tear areas are). Then you can feel more confident that you are buying something you will still enjoy in 5 years.
I'm thinking i'd like to stick to around $15k-16k budget wise. A brand spanking new Honda isn't necessary for me, especially given their reputation, so an older model would suffice. I'd prefer automatic since i'm shit at driving stick. An odd thing i've read about the '15-'16 Sport models (and maybe even the newer versions) is that they're apparently only available as 4 cylinder and don't come in V6. Not a deal breaker but kinda odd.
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Another option - the new Camry really is an amazing product. Great looks, interior upgrades, and decent package options. Considering my FIL bought my wife a base economy Camry in 2009 for $9,800 and we traded it in for $7,200 in 2014 after 130k miles and 2 accidents, I’d say Camrys are up there in residual as well.
^^ when they released this end of last year/ early this year, i thought damn. the new camry and corolla has got that menacing look to it's design aesthetic. and the lines look sexy as hell too. unfortunately, i cannot really comment on prices as i wouldn't know the car prices and second hand market well..
maybe even consider what you need/looking for - rear legroom, big boot, safety features(blind spot, lane departure warning and the likes, electronics (keyless entry,led headlights, infotainment systems and such) etc..
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^100% this.
With kids in the backseat, you need to make sure you have enough room for car seats, etc. something we found we needed to ungraded to full size Sedans for.
But you only have 1, so you should be fine lol [emoji23]
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^100% this.
With kids in the backseat, you need to make sure you have enough room for car seats, etc. something we found we needed to ungraded to full size Sedans for.
But you only have 1, so you should be fine lol [emoji23]
I watched a couple of youtube reviews for the 2015 Accord Sport and one thing they have a lot of is plenty of backseat space. My son has graduated to a booster seat so it's not really an issue.
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Even better.
Alex on Autos in YouTube does a great job with the car seat tests.
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^^ when they released this end of last year/ early this year, i thought damn. the new camry and corolla has got that menacing look to it's design aesthetic. and the lines look sexy as hell too. unfortunately, i cannot really comment on prices as i wouldn't know the car prices and second hand market well..
maybe even consider what you need/looking for - rear legroom, big boot, safety features(blind spot, lane departure warning and the likes, electronics (keyless entry,led headlights, infotainment systems and such) etc..
I may consider a Camry if the Honda doesn't pan out. It'll still be awhile before I actually get a new/used car, so i'm using this time to do research and figure out what I need and want.
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If you are an enthusiasts of any sort, you will find that what you need and what you want are two very different things.
I need a spacious, 4WD SUV that can haul barbells, two child seats, two dogs, and go through floods and mud.
I was an E63 AMG Wagon.
Similar but very different haha [emoji23]
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My personal experience with Honda (including two Acura) and Toyota is that they are amazing cars.
I had a Toyota Solera (Camry coupe) that gave me 14 years of dependable service with nothing beyond routine maintenance. This included 8 years in Minnesota winters where even the extreme cold never killed the ability to start the engine, not the constant salt any obvious damage. I had two instances of accidental rally car driving in that vehicle, one in Moab (Google Maps diverted me on to a very scary 4x4 track of mud and snow) that would challenge a custom four wheeler, and the car sustained all the abuse (including getting it unstuck several times and barrelling down a muddy track so that I would hydroplane over mud rather than sink into it) I could levy on it with hardly a sigh.
These marques are built to last if even I can't wreck one.
