IHJ-54-BLK - Japanese Horsehide Rider's Jacket with Collar - Black (Tea-Core Dye
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@giles
Do you know, what is the weight of this jacket ? Is it 2.5oz ? Or heavier ? I know aero cxl starts at 3oz.
Also , what is the leather thickness in mm?I own aero cxl horsehide so I kind a know what to expect here but need little more information on the leather for sizing purposes.
Thanks
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Ok thanks
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This leather is beautifuly thick and meaty but crazy soft!
No break in period for me, only to mold to my body.
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Exactly what Giles said
Sleeves are fine . Due to creasing factor , In Horsehide material you must needed .75 inch long compare to your actual sleeve length size . Learned this hard way
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As with most IH gear, the sleeves are designed to be a bit long, especially compared to other Japanese brands. The idea it’s that when you sit on a motorcycle, the sleeves are not halfway up your arm.
Longer sleeves is one of the reasons I like the fit of IH so much. I’m not into the sugarcane look where the sleeves stop two inches above your wrist.
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This is how my J-54 In brown fits me. Relaxed hand, cuffs extend to my knuckles. However, while wearing and moving, I keep the cuffs zipped snug at the wrist and it stays put really well.
Add the .75-1” creases and settling snd your fit will be glorious after a few weeks of consistent wear.
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After a long search and, also, a nearly 2 year wait for a pre-order of a Fine Creek Leathers custom Leon to arrive at my home only to learn that the fitting is not for my body type, I've now come to strongly notice the leather jacket options offered by Iron Heart. Now surprised to realize that the leather is coming Himeji, just as was the leather from the FCL jacket. The difference being is that the leather is chrome tanned instead of veggie tanned. Its sounding as though people are generally praising the Chrome tanned leather for its softness and quality even though the tanning process is substantially less labor and time-intensive that brewing it with vegetable stock. lol Anything else that should be known to someone that hasn't yet handled a purely chrome tanned horsehide?
Also, really been looking more at the Self Edge version of this collar jacket as I appreciate the lack of zipper gusset located on the sides of the waist. Any other difference between this version sold on the IH site vs the SE version??? Slimmer arms sleeves?? I know the sizings are different. A size 42 there looks like an XXXL here.
What sometimes blows my mind with IH is that the chest sizes are at least an 1-1.5 inches larger than any other brand I may but but, given the significant taper, the clothing ends up fitting very well, providing me a very nice range of motion whilst also offering a flattering silhouette. But now I'm not certain with leather jackets so thought I might ask here. I generally fit pretty well in a size XXL for UHF workshirts, XXL in western denim, and generally XXXL in the 526LOD (though its a bit tight in the midsection). The pit-to-pit is usually 24 inches in these clothes with waist size of around 22.5. The collared leather jacket in a XXXL appears to match my sizing though perhaps I really should be getting something a bit tighter, even if its initial wears are uncomfortable, so that it stretches and forms to my person?
Also, Giles, do you still have that marked down collared jacket? Perhaps the panel with the lighter weight won't be so noticeable after its broken in with the rest of the jacket?
Boy, sorry. Think I really demand a lot out of this forum with all my questions. As a forum "newcomer", ya'll been really helpful in your opinions and suggestions and want you to know I really appreciate. I'll have to post up some fit pics of IH gear I own sometime soon.
Thanks.
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Hey Brian! Thanks for the super well thought out post.
First off, the chrome tanned leather is sublime - you don’t have the weird smell that some veg tanned leathers have, and the color is very durable and uniform at first wear (a positive note of chrome tanned leather) and then breaks in with great character (the grain opens considerably) as you wear it.
For sizing, I wear a solid XL-XXL in nearly all my IH gear, snd wear a slim fitting XXL in the J-54. I will admit, the side gussets are exceptionally usable and if I did not have them, I’d have to size up due to the taper you speak about.
I do not notice the zips while
Wearing, and they are not obvious while
Wearing. I actually like the look of them
To be honest.Self edge and IHUK use different ways to measure, snd SE does not measure with new restocks every time, so IHUK measures will most likely be the most consistent, even with the changes to the SE version.
Hope that helps!
You will not be disappointed in the J-54 and the sheen wears away quickly after one or two wears in the rain another thing I appreciate about the chrome tan - it holds its own in foul weather.
Cheers and let us know how you get on with a jacket !
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Ok. So it is seems that people are buying the same size as they do in UHF and other shirting and it likely helps to keep that slim profile and probably allows for a t-shirt or something light to be worn underneath. Then, as @Appfaff mentions, the size zippers are helpful and avoids some of the need to size up.
The sizing suggestion of XXL, for me, seems even better considering that I'd only be sizing up 1 from the SE model wearing an XL equivalent. He is said to weigh 200 lbs and with a chest of 41.5 and height of 6'2". The jacket he was wearing was 5 inches wider than his chest. I, myself, weight 22 pounds heavier, have a chest size of 44, and measure at 6'3" in height. The XXL with a chest at nearly 48 inches (approx. 4 inches wider than my own chest). The waist is an inch smaller across in waist compared to my IHSH-235 but I guess that's okay and perhaps I should some more time doing sit-ups so that it doesn't feel so slim or tight on me… Good thing there would be side zippers until I got to that point...
Getting the correctly sized clothing online is such a headache. Thank god that Iron Heart, and some others, have their easy-going return policies going else I'd be reselling high-end clothing at a loss with every-other-purchase.
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I think you are on the right path..
I’m 6’2 and a large man- I’m 220-230lbs depending on the kind of beer sales my local grocery has going [emoji23] I also wear a 36-38 in IH pants/jeans.
My XXL UHFs are slim fitting snd I can fully zip my 54 over them as well as a T-shirt for a tailored but not skin tight look.
Hope that helps!
Here is a recent pic(s) of me in my brown one I literally just keep the sides unzipped so I can wear it in my truck lol :
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Welcome @BrianA and good choice selecting the IHJ-54.
Another data point: I wear XXLs in the UHFs but size down to an XL in the IH leather jackets (54, 35, 49). I can't really wear it comfortably over a UHF but primarily wear lighter layers anyway - heaviest I usually go is like the 1301 or 1501. I'm a 43-44in chest and it looks perfectly fitted.
Regardless of sizing, I would agree with @Appfaff though and recommend the IH version with the side zips to give you more fit options. Nothing against the SE version (I own their 35 for the lining) but I've found the 54 to fit slightly more snugger around the waist so the side zips are nice to have.
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@Appfaff, that actually was helpful. Thank you. Think we have similar body types. That jacket is developing very nicely. Looks the perfect length and fit.
@Manticore, seen your photo posts. The jacket looks great on you. Think I might be edging closer to the IH version.
Just gotta sell off some things I've not been wearing and then I can pick up this one. I won't yet call the IHJ-54 black my dream jacket but it has potential. Appreciate the prospect of not having to go "all in" with a custom jacket to own a high quality jacket that fits me properly.
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The more time I spend on here (which is quite a lot,) the more I keep looking at this jacket…. the more I think about YOLO-ing my income tax refund into this jacket. It is coincidentally about the same amount as the price of this jacket. I think maybe it is a sign?
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Definitely a sign. Frankly I'm surprised the IRS didn't just mail you an IH voucher instead.