My new friend just walked into the door after a short bath - standing strong on his loong 37 inch legs.

I am 6.7 (200cm) and 93kg (205lbs). In all my UHFs I wear XXXL (all WESTERN). Same for the Selfedge exclusive moleskin CPO.

Based on the description above, my initial thought was sizing up to 4XL. However, after having had the chance to try own the shirt, I can say 3XL fits like a glove. For me arm length and overall length are most critical. I’d describe the fit as fitted but not tight.

Forearms are definitely on the tighter side but start to losen up already after a few hours of wear.

Hope this helps

@goosehd Fantastic! They are perfect as they are - I can see them become my favorite pair of denim based on my developing love for wider fits.
I also just got a pair of the Blacksign 15oz Vocalion (see images) and these are a great right in the middle between those and my 777S in terms of fit. Not as high rise, not as wide (leg opening on the BS is 10.2) - a great cut to wear with basically anything.

Getting away from the city for a day…

One of my favorite pairs of engineers. About a year of occasional wear.

@long_john86 I am one week into my 634 XHS coming from 21oz 777S. Ordered size 36 (which is what I have in the 777). They fit comfortably when I got them. Hot soaked it at 40 degree Celsius (104 degree F). They shrunk minimally in the waist and after a week of wear back to where I got them more or less. In short, the measurement (in the waist) that you read is what you get and what you keep.

@Daniel-San yes, that‘s an edition made for standard & strange. It’s horsebutt in „crust“ which is basically just natural. They got substantially darker with wear and being exposed to sun. My particular pair is quite smooth but there were other sizes/ pairs with more grain - I guess it’s the nature of horse

Haha - I’d say, I read more than I post but thought with this thread adding more reference points is helpful due to this one being a bit tricky to fit. My instagram is ab_crafted.

@popvulture Perfect! That's what I did - ordered a 36. I can't wait for a higher rise. I am a bit annoyed with the low rise of the 777

@Germinal I think this is helpful! Between the two of us, it shows that 3XL and 4XL are really not that far apart if I can make 3XL with 2 meters and 93kg work and you can make 4XL with 1.85 and 91kg work

@Daniel-San yes, that‘s an edition made for standard & strange. It’s horsebutt in „crust“ which is basically just natural. They got substantially darker with wear and being exposed to sun. My particular pair is quite smooth but there were other sizes/ pairs with more grain - I guess it’s the nature of horse

One of my favorite pairs of engineers. About a year of occasional wear.

@long_john86 I am one week into my 634 XHS coming from 21oz 777S. Ordered size 36 (which is what I have in the 777). They fit comfortably when I got them. Hot soaked it at 40 degree Celsius (104 degree F). They shrunk minimally in the waist and after a week of wear back to where I got them more or less. In short, the measurement (in the waist) that you read is what you get and what you keep.

My new friend just walked into the door after a short bath - standing strong on his loong 37 inch legs.

@goosehd Fantastic! They are perfect as they are - I can see them become my favorite pair of denim based on my developing love for wider fits.
I also just got a pair of the Blacksign 15oz Vocalion (see images) and these are a great right in the middle between those and my 777S in terms of fit. Not as high rise, not as wide (leg opening on the BS is 10.2) - a great cut to wear with basically anything.

@goosehd ok, so net net - if they fit now, they will also fit post future wash and break-in. I should not buy them "too big" now so that they shrink down in the future? (and I should also not have them being super tight of course)

Received mine today and the first reaction of my girlfriend was "WHY?" when she picked up this rigid pile of cardboard

I have to say, the feel better than the 21oz 634 that I tried as SE. Of course stiffer, but fit wise they are pretty perfect.
Out of curiosity: the description says, expect an inch of shrinkage in the waist, but so far all of my denim stretches back/out a bit after being worn - is this not the case with those?

@popvulture Perfect! That's what I did - ordered a 36. I can't wait for a higher rise. I am a bit annoyed with the low rise of the 777

@sabergirl Yes, that's what I figured - measured a bunch of other pants and the 777 and they are all in the 37 ballpark - they def. should not be below 36 (the chart indicates 34 and 35 to be the same waist, both below 36) - so should be good with tag 36 here. thx!

How does the sizing compare to the 777S in 21 oz. Would you go with the same size or size down? I am a 36 in the 777 and the pants are perfectly comfortable. Neither too wide to too tight.