Thought I would post these for posterity.  I've had these since 2008.  I bought them from Giles just before he went on a trip to Japan and I asked, well, since you're over there, can you have these hemmed in Japan?  He got it done on his trip!  So, that's a pretty unique thing about this particular pair.  Also, these have silver rivets including a silver crotch rivet back when they did that.

I've had them patched and repaired once, at Self Edge New York.

I actually took the time to take photos of it a couple times over the years.

2008
http://shadowflood.com/_temp/ih461s/

2010
http://www.shadowflood.com/_temp/ih461s-2/

2018

Hah, yeah, that solves the same problem.  I guess I was thinking of a different form factor/shape.

@sabergirl:

Like this? [[https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7932/URL]

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Also, I've had an idea for a leather piece bobbling around in my head forever.  Bought my first pair of Iron Hearts from Giles in 2008 and ever since then I've had this idea.

  So, many of us carry keys on a caribiner or a key hook or something, right?  The keys jangle around and are noisy.  Lame.  Someone should make a simple cone shaped piece of leather that attaches to a keyring and wraps around keys and keeps them from rattling around.  It can be secured by a snap so that it's easy to unsnap and access your keys.  It shouldn't be big and look like a damn ice cream cone around your keys…just enough to add pressure, squeezing the keys together just enough so they don't jangle around.  Maybe just a 1.5"x3" strip of leather cut so that it forms a cone when snapped together.

At the risk of killing my own idea: Right now, I actually put one of my wife's rubber hair bands around the back end of my keys so they don't rattle around.  Not elegant, but effective and unobtrusive.

Hrm, interesting thread.

  So, I used to carry a small pocket knife in my right pocket that actually wore through the cotton pocket bag.  My wife, actually sewed in a small patch of rip-stop nylon into the cotton pocket bag.  This is quite non-traditional, but it might be interesting to offer pocket bags made of rip-stop material.

  This is not a new idea…I've seen it in other genres, but not on the Japanese denim scene.  Also, non traditional, but we all carry around these dang big smartphones now, right?  Maybe a yoke pocket.  Again, very non traditional, I know.

These are both non-traditional ideas that I almost have a problem posting here, but neither disrupt the classic look of a 5 pocket jean.  Maybe it's more a Triple Aught Design thing (they already have yoke pockets though -- not a new idea)

Hey, all, I bought a pair of 634s' maybe 12 or 13 years ago and decided they were too loose for me. Ended up returning them and got a different model, a pair of 461s that I still have to this day. (Very special pair to me since Giles had them made with silver rivets, incl. a crotch rivet, and had them hemmed in Japan since he just happened to be there at the time.)

But now I kind of want to look into 634s again and notice that they seem like they are cut a tiny bit slimmer. I have a pair of 666s and of course they don't seem that slim, but maybe a little slimmer.

Am I just seeing it that way and they are cut the exact same way they were 10+ years ago or are they, indeed, actually cut a tiny bit slimmer?

Me.