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Thanks G
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I feel I ought to know the answer to my own question but I don’t even after 3 and a half years after buying my first IH pair of jeans. So, for the forum members more observant and smarter than I…
Which IH cut is most similar to the Self Edge 633 cut?
The slight differences in how IHUK and SE measure jeans adds to my confusion as even a slight 0.2 inch difference in thigh width means a whole lot in the comfort department. At this point I’m thinking that the three “closest” cuts to the 633 are 666, 777 and 888. With the main differences between them being: 666 is narrower at the thigh; 777 is more strongly tapered from the thigh all the way down to the hem; and 888 having a higher rise. I’m only drawing these conclusion based on owning one pair of 666 and one pair of 888…and also a single pair of 633. So not based on much, really.
As I’ve noted before, so far my most comfortable cut is the 633 but I want to get the most similar IH proprietary cut firmly figured out. Nailing this will give me quite a few more fabric options, especially urgent in light of the recently announced incoming ones. Therefore, telling me to stick to the 633 won’t be enough guys.
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I think that @sabergirl is correct that the for the 633 SE asked Haraki-san to put a stronger taper in the 634. So from above the knee and up they are the same.
When @Giles and @Megatron1505 dreamt up the 888 they also started with the 634 in mind. The major difference between the 633 and 888, apart from the rise, is that the taper in the 888 starts at the top of thigh rather than just above the knee.
So it depends what area you’re interested in. The closest cut when it comes to top block and thigh is the 634. When it comes to leg silhouette and taper it is the 888.
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Hello i'm new to the forum so still trying to work out how to navigate things and i have no idea how to start a new topic ?
so having bought tried and very sadly sold Wesco custom harness boots despite being VERY impressed with the quality i have been searching in vain ever since for …... well ....... them very same boots but rather how they look in pictures rather than how they look on my feet .I'm in the UK so "quality" means i have to buy from America just to try them on .
Its taken me a while to work out what went wrong for me regarding the Wesco and it became clear when i decided to tear the heel off my Grinders boots replacing it with a home made wooden block so i could add a heavy lug vibram sole (cheap copy wesco's) .
Seem's to me the vibram sole used by Wesco and White's Freedom boots (my second choice) dictates a wide square toe and what i seek without success is a narrow square toe . A tough hard wearing all day every day whether mudplugging , going to a wedding , bikers cowboy/engineer boot .
Pics will explain it better when and if i can work out how to do it on the mrs ipad .
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Thanks for your replies @sabergirl and @neph93 . I want to keep the same rise as the 634, same thigh as the 634 and some taper from the knee down. That lands me squarely in 633 territory. You two confirmed my suspicion that I’m held hostage by Self Edge. I’ll just root for SE to expand its IH jean options.
How about the same question on the chino front? Which chino cut do you find most akin to the 633? Have you tried any IH chinos?
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I did have a 717 for a while, and they were a different animal altogether, though I liked the fit. I love my duck 816, and wish that there were a tapered version in denim—would become an instant favorite. 816 has a lower front rise, paired with a higher back, which is what I like about the fit.
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@Crashed I’m not sure what you’re after, but I’m sure Wesco’s custom build tool will give you the opportunity to find out. Combining the harness toe with a vibrant 700/705 sole maybe the answer. Alternatively a motor patrol toe may tickle your fancy.
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Thanks for your replies , where i struggle is for 30 years i've worn only traditional cowboy boots but somewhere along the line they were deemed female fashion boots and so while a single pair of boots worn daily once lasted me circa 7 years nowadays they last as many weeks . Not good when i have two 6" screws in my foot from a bike accident .
I have only one pair of feet hence i only need one pair of long lasting shoes which is what led me to Wesco the quality of which is outstanding .
I have used their custom builder and searched many hours online for any pair of boots they make with the toe i try to describe without success .
In that pic they look an ideal combination of western style engineers boots but on my feet while wearing bootcut jeans i look down and think i could be wearing budget safety boots from my local builders merchant and nobody would notice the difference .
For reasons i will never know it seems a narrow square toe tapers down like its been squashed and the wide square toe must be at least 2 inches wide ?
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@Crashed I think I know what you mean now, something like this?:
In which case you’re right, Wesco don’t do something that stylised. I’m not up on cowboy boots but I understand Luchesse to be a respected brand in that ouvre. They do custom builds I believe.
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The closest Wesco do you a cowboy boot is their western toe. Not squared at the toe, but quite narrow and with “roper” style uppers. You can get them done with any vibrant sole your like and double mids, and even add harness straps
At the end of the day, Wesco have a focus on practical work boots historically. That is their background. Have a look at Luchesse. Their custom builder gives you the option of a western style boot with their “nr.7” toe, which resembles what you’re after. I doubt they put a lugged vibrant #100 on their boots but that could be customised aftermarket.
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Yeah i'm flogging a dead horse and i may as well continue buying a pair of these every year https://www.bikersparadise.co.uk/Renegade-Hi-Waxy-Cowhide-Bike-Boots.html
But thanks for taking the time to reply . So near yet so far is what frustrates me , The Wesco is 5 times more expensive but worth it if they had the style i want
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3. Square toes, which come in a variety of squareness, from subtle box toes to the broad square toes, have gained popularity over the past fifteen years. The “John Wayne” toe is a narrow square, also called a box toe, a punchy toe, or some other name depending on the company. The wide, square toe is the preferred choice for frat brothers, West Texas landmen, and rodeo cowboys.
John Wayne huh …...... i must be getting old
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What do people prefer in "Buying & Selling" ?
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a single item per post
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a collection of items per post
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