NBA (Basketball)
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Proud of our boys. I feel like a) the refs were way too lenient on the Wolves’ defensive aggression in the first two games and b) the Wolves either tired themselves out or reacted to fouls being called, as the aggression of things like their full court press has waned significantly. Gobert continues to shove defenders on the back in almost every single defensive rebounding scenario and he and the fans were outraged when he got called on it. Ant was the only thing going on offense, and maybe that’s fine: he’s gonna eat, let him eat and shut the rest down. We were shooting like the Wolves were in the opening games, and that can obviously come and go.
The bench and AG were so good last night. MPJ had a horrendous game and still won. Putting up 8 points (the ultimate margin of victory) in the last 30 seconds in the first half right when the Wolves narrowed the lead to single digits was a thing of beauty too. Jokič putting up 16 in the final quarter was what an MVP does.
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Great game. If MPJ and Murray show up a blowout.
But look at what the MVP is doing:
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Sucker for stat lines like this. What is VORP and what website are you pulling this from?
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@flannel-slut https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/
PER and VORP are advanced statistics that try to figure in how to profile a player more deeply than simple stats like assists, points, rebounds, etc. They originated in baseball sabermetrics and are a good way to quantify the contributions a player makes. The specific definitions for these categories can be found at the link.
@MQR honestly should have 4 in a row IMO
Here’s another crazy one. Career PER. Keep in mind that PER is offensively skewed which disadvantages Jordan, who was a superb defender, but WOW.
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@mclaincausey indeed last year shouldve been him awarded the MVP..
wow, that’s new to me, thanks for that, i did not know there’s a PER
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No such thing as a perfect all in one stat but it’s interesting at least. There’s one that 538 did that’s an extension of PER called RAPTOR and it’s probably the best. Last year regular season since we are talking MVP:
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Hehe that was brutal. I’m so confused by this series. Why would they suddenly all go cold on open shots and stop driving to the paint? It was surreal. First two minutes they were fine, but to lose by 45 is a generational embarrassment.
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@mclaincausey yup!! Totally nuts. Nonstop 3 attempts (3-41 or something insane like that)
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Fitting to have a rollercoaster of a game end a rollercoaster of a series. Sorry Denver homies- Jokic fuckin rules, maybe my favorite player in the league who isn’t a Timberwolf. So much respect for him.
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The Knicks never got out of the starting gate last night in game 7 - disappointing to miss out on the Conference Final, but I think the Celtics would have been a step too far anyway - I saw a couple of their wins over the Heat (on TV) whilst in Boston recently.
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@october-rust absolutely gutted!! Congrats to ya’ll. It was a crazy series indeed. TWolves D exposed our lackluster ball handling. So much hustle on your part. Props!! Hope y’all take it all the way!!!
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Congrats MN!
Twolves wanted it more. Absolutely embarrassing to be down by 50 in one game and have a 28 point swing in a game 7 at home. I can’t overstate what a historic failure this has been for a title defense even though those have become quite rare. Got KAT into early foul trouble and decided not to get him out of the game, ran switches on him that let him cook guards, and let a vulnerable player and a liability be the POTG.
Both instances, the points in the paint evaporated in favor of bricks from the outside. I don’t understand it at all but I think we need a servicable defensive backup big and be open to moving MPJ if he can’t be more consistent.
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@mclaincausey I’m not a big basketball fan, but love your analysis and summary of a game, despite the fact that I barely understand it! Absolutely superb.
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@mclaincausey Jokic was passing the ball away in lieu of shooting in the lane for most of the night. It seems like he was more standoffish this game and his 3's weren't working until it was too late. Nas Reid took over for the foul troubled KAT and even on an off night for the Edwards, the wolves just wanted it more.
3 games won on the road for the Wolves is such a turnaround for MN sports.
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Yeah, he was passing instead of posting up, but what really was the dagger was missing his first 7 3s instead of posting up. Even hitting half of those erases the final deficit. Probably just worn out. The timing of the comeback was tricky because while you want to sit Jokic when you have a big lead, the beginning of the 3rd quarter is a weird time to sit him.
Kudos to the Wolves, but also shame on the Nuggets for the way they lost these last two games. I’m hoping this lights a fire and motivates Booth to make some moves as well but this in my mind is on the Nuggets.
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@jordanscollected said in NBA (Basketball):
@mclaincausey Jokic was passing the ball away in lieu of shooting in the lane for most of the night. It seems like he was more standoffish this game and his 3's weren't working until it was too late. Nas Reid took over for the foul troubled KAT and even on an off night for the Edwards, the wolves just wanted it more.
3 games won on the road for the Wolves is such a turnaround for MN sports.
This has kind of been the antithesis of 30 years of Minnesota sports, SO FAR. What’s most promising to me is, there haven’t been many games yet where everyone is clicking at the same time, and we’re still finding ways to win. If KAT and Ant are both on I don’t think anyone can beat us, especially when a role player like Jaden puts up 23 points.
I don’t want to look past Dallas, but if(big if) we make it to the finals decided this morning I’ll fly home and take my dad to a game.