IH-666-UHR - Ultra Heavy - Devil's Fit (Slim Cut)

Palmer

You lucky dog @Oaktavia! Total grail pair. The 666 looks terrific on you.

dinobarnesberlin

gotta agree with the other folks @Oaktavia –this is a good cut on you.
I totally lucked out going with the 666 cut as my first and only (so far ) pair and love the way they drape.
they are just coming up on one year this month...will post pics soon enough.
nice cop

swiss-jeansfreak

@Oaktavia Wow great fit indeed and awesome plan to rock them the hardcore way.
I can‘t wait to see them 800 wear days later

Filthy2123ozjunkie

@swiss-jeansfreak I am so happy to see you back here again! I sincerely hope all is well with you!

swiss-jeansfreak

Thanks a lot @Filthy
It‘s just such a shame that I‘m always too low on time to partizipate more on this forum!!!!
I need a second raw denim life!!!!

Oaktavia

I think I will send my pair into Indigo Proof or Railcar to get them resized. They can be worn with a belt, but I would be happier if they were smaller. I might get a slight taper also…just to make them a bit closer to perfect.

sabergirl

FWIW, I think you’d be making a mistake messing with the fit on those. Do you know if they’ve ever seen water? UHR shrinks a ton.

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Oaktavia

@sabergirl:

FWIW, I think you’d be making a mistake messing with the fit on those. Do you know if they’ve ever seen water? UHR shrinks a ton.

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I hot washed them and threw them into the dryer when I got them to see if there was any shrink left. It looked like they had been soaked before on account of the leg twist. They are still quite large in the waist and bunch up a bit in random areas around my waist.

I appreciate the feedback, do you think it would be better to keep them as they are and rock them big? I can pull them over my waist without unbuttoning them…Also, do you mean it would be a mistake to mess with resizing and the fit? Maybe just a resize to 2" down would be better and no taper? Or would messing with them in the first place be a bad idea? If you can't tell, I'm new to this idea...

I'm open for both options, and wanted to run it by folks before I did anything drastic.. @neph93 what are your thoughts on resizing?

Nik

To me the waist is one thing and the taper is another. Getting them to fit in the waist is likely to make you want to wear them more. The changes will not be super visible, given that the area is often covered by shirt or jacket. Editing the leg shape is likely to disrupt the proportions, which were carefully designed. Years ago I tapered three pairs of good denim and ended up disliking everyone of them. Wouldn’t ever do it again. That being said, all this is super subjective. If there’s any way of pinning to see how it feels and looks before cutting any fabric, that’s probably a sensible idea. Even taking in the waist is risky because then the hips might balloon. Dialling in fit can be tricky, but I also like the idea of how a new shape takes some aesthetic adjustment on our part to being to understand why certain pieces are designed the way they are. I’ve enjoyed that learning process, even if it had caused some items to not work out as much as I try. In the end it’s a weirdly unique body that has to fill these things out!

sabergirl

I think they look good big. I’ve rarely ever heard of good results from drastic alterations to heavy denim. It’s a gamble.

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Oaktavia

@sabergirl:

I think they look good big. I’ve rarely ever heard of good results from drastic alterations to heavy denim. It’s a gamble.

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Thank you for the insight…this is why I love this forum. Straight answers from intelligent denim peeps. Your suggestions, as well as @Nkwkfld 's statements make me think keeping them big as they are is fine.

Which leads me to my next question: is wearing heavy denim oversized (in the waist) necessarily a bad thing? Especially if the rest of the cut is working?

popvulture

Often the waist of my jeans get stretched out more than I'd like, while the rest of the pair is fine. I think it's a natural thing, seeing that the waist is usually such a hi-stress area.

I'd just wear a belt! As long as you're comfortable and you aren't having to cinch the waist up drastically, should be fine.

neph93

@Oaktavia I agree with @Nkwkfld that tapering and a waist reduction are two separate things. If you were determined to make the jeans work then taking in the waist would be a practical solution. Tapering is a purely aesthetic thing.

Personally, I’m not a fan of tapering. If the leg doesn’t fit how I like, I’d rather not bother, and find another pair that fits better. I know it is popular with a people who want IH but want a smaller hem, but it doesn’t rhyme for me. Just my opinion. I know there are guys here who have done it and are happy, so I’m glad for them and my opinion shouldn’t mean a thing in that case.

I will say that, in line with what @sabergirl says, I’ve never seen a a pair that has been tapered aftermarket that looks really good to my eyes. Even pairs tailored by Indigo Proof (who do great work) tend to look a little off.

By the same token, a waist alteration is going to change the way the whole top block fits. It may work out for you, it may not. At the end of the day, if you aren’t going to wear them as they are it may be a case of weighing up the alternatives. Money and time on a fit that may work, but may not, or moving them on and loosing out on a pair of classic jeans.

I’ve already said I like the look of them and think they suit you, and I’ll stick to that. But I’m not the one wearing them. Over to you bud.

Oaktavia

Cool, cool all of this makes sense and especially with your reiterations, Reuben. Thank you all again for the advice. After reading through everything posted a couple of times, I think I'll stick with what I've got. I just tried them back on and I actually dig the way the fit looks and if I were to send them in, I would only alter the waist. At this point though, it seems like not messing with them is best.

I suppose I was unsure if a loose waist mattered or not. I am just not used to the bunching up that happens. I can shift the folds around the waist a bit, and I bet when I wear them (after the Indigo Invitational) often the folds will find a place to stay put. It does not interfere with comfort. This cut and denim is for sure the most comfortable pair I have. Who knows, with all the beer I drink, I will likely grow into the waist a bit more.

Anyway, this has been another episode of…Overthinking Things...see you next time.

I would also shy away from surgical modification. But they are a size too big and that makes the evolutionary process a bit different from a spot on fit. I myself had to call it quits on a pair of 32” UHR because the extra room in the thighs turned into wicked long creases that I couldn’t tolerate. The extra fabric had to do something and since the jeans were basically raw, there was no way I could wear them and eliminate the thigh creases from fading. If these were prewashed Levi’s they would just be baggy, and since the denim would be washed out, there would be no risk of awful creasing. It’s the raw to faded evolution that makes it a challenge. With all that said, I think treating these like a denim art project like your lefty jacket won’t work as flawlessly. Maybe treat these like work pants, or go for a more frequently washed look without wearing them while wet to avoid huge unpleasant creases in the areas that don’t fit as perfectly. If you can get them to the pajama stage without them creasing terribly, then you might have an extraordinarily comfortable and useful pairs of pants. Since they’ve already been hot washed and dried, there shouldn’t be much more shrinkage. So if you can just wear them and wash them grow to love them. I have a pair of 30” 814’s and they are too big for awesome fade patterns, but they go everywhere with me and take a beating and still eventually fade beautifully, just not with complex creases and honeycombs. Wear in good health as we say

Oaktavia

@adam313 right on dude that is what I will do. They already feel like PJ'S that are too big, like with the drawstring pulled tight. Not ideal, but damn cozy. So I will see how they evolve, be it different than a well fitted pair. I'm looking forward to it at this point. Ty for your insight.