IH-888-XHS - 25oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo
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Giving my 634s-a a break and back to wearing these. They don’t fit that bad as long as I’m wearing a belt.
The knees are super faded for some reason. I’m guessing dragging them on carpet whoops..
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@Mizmazzle @Jeanmoreau looks great!!
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Question for the 25 oz wearers. I have a pair of 888S-21 that fit perfect, but if the temperature dips below 40 degrees fahrenheit they aren't warm enough. I am thinking of getting a pair of 888S in 25oz for the colder temperatures in Tennessee. Is there a material difference in warmth between the 21oz and 25oz that would merit buying a new pair just for winter?
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@Nashville60 In my opinion, yes. I wear 16oz-Slubs and 18oz vintage during the summer, 21oz in the spring and fall, and 25oz in the winter. The best pants I have for really cold and windy days are the whipcord cargos.
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@Nashville60 I agreed with Dennis to a point. The whipcord cargos are far superior to any standalone denim I have for warmth and wind resistance. I don't think you'll get as noticeable of a difference as you hope when increasing 21 to 25 oz. I own the 888xhs and while they are warm, they are nothing compared to the cargos, or a merino wool base layer under denim (I ride horses all winter long in Minnesota in jeans with a merino wool base layer).
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My take: Whipcord cargos are very good for cold days. XHS isn't "warm" in the sense that it is not a very textured/fuzzy denim. But it is much more wind resistant than 21oz. The parts of the jeans that are taut and in direct contact with your skin will feel no warmer in XHS compared to 21oz. But for the parts that are looser fitting, or not in direct contact (below the knees) the wind resistance of XHS helps a lot.
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Thank you @goosehd @jordanscollected @Mike_Lima_Papa for the responses!
I have been wearing some light merino wool leggings underneath that get the job done, it just gets a little tight in the fit department. I definitely feel the wind when it's chilly so it sounds like the 25 oz might help in that department, but overall warmth probably wouldn't be better than my 21 oz pair with leggings underneath. Decisions decisions
For those that own both the 21 and 25 oz in 888, is the fit and stretch similar? If I'm a size 32 in the 888S-21 should I go for a 32 in the 8883-XHS?
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@Nashville60 hey man!! Welcome to the slope!! Gets a little slippery round these parts!! I have the 888 in 21oz and 25oz XHS. First off, the heft of the 25oz is just so damn incredible. I do think it adds a bit of warmth. I live in Colorado and we get down to sub zero at times. 25oz is not going to make it feel like you’re wearing thermals or anything compared to 21oz. But there is a touch more wind and warmth retention in my experience. I spend a lot of time hiking and outdoors in the winter and wear my 25oz all the time. On the really cold 5 degrees or below, I’ll put some long Johns on under. Love em!
All that being said, I love my 21oz. But it’s hard to wear them when I know my 25ozers are calling my name. The heft and weight of the fabric just gets me all hot and bothered. Even when it’s all hot and bothersome outside. Then July comes and I give up and give my pasty legs some sun.
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Oh, as for the stretch…my 21oz are The OD and they stretch quite easily. The 25oz are XHS and they take more time to get the stretch but I think they’ve ended up in the same place as far as my waist is concerned. Probably about 3/4-1” of stretch in both.
I have a few pairs of 888s and I recently measured them all and they are uniformly 33” dead on. Even though I know they didn’t all start at exactly one inch less, I think my body’s dimensions pushed them all to exactly the same point.
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Thanks @Mizmazzle for the info! I agree it's a slippery slope. You make the 25oz sound awful appealing, then again there's about 10 other things that I want so gotta pace myself. I think the one thing that might save my wallet is that my big thighs can only fit into the 888 cut
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Children’s Museum fit pic
