IHJ-66-BLK - Ventile Riders Jacket in Black

[Signal11]

Any estimate on the weight of this jacket?
And does it fade?

[Giles]

We going to guess - it feels about 8oz…..Not sure about fading, I'll ask....

[Signal11]

Thanks G.

[Graeme]

@Signal11 I had a Cabourn Ventile jacket, and it faded a little, but more in the way that an old t-shirt would, rather than like denim.

They look great jackets, I'm just a bit uncertain about getting sizing right.

[Signal11]

Thanks Graeme. I was both hoping and expecting that but I just didn’t know.

I also noticed chest size is a little small compared to the rest…

[neph93]

@Signal11:

I also noticed chest size is a little small compared to the rest…

These have those pleated, bi-curious (or whatever) shoulders though, don’t they? This gives more room than measurements suggest. Based on a comparison with my 13.5oz riders jacket (the chest measurements also seemed provibitive on that) I’d go XL in this as I did with that. I’m an XL in shirts.

[Giles]

No they don't. The samples did, but because the fabric is relatively lightweight, we could not keep the action pleats from unfolding….Understand?

[neph93]

@Giles:

Understand?

I think I can visualise the problem yes. I guess they just sort of hang open. Good to know.

[Giles]

You got it.

There is a way of stopping this happening by using elastic, but we decided it was cleaner on these to do away with them….

[scooter]

Bagged an XXL. Now, I wait anxiously patiently. 

[Chris]

Ventile versus Texas winter:

Ventile wins!

[mclaincausey]

Nice, Chris.

It seems you can have a high degree of mobility without bi-swing pleats… I guess it just depends on the cut and fabric. I have a jacket that is made of a similar fabric (Epic cotton, which is basically ventile with DWR integrated into the threads) and affords completely universal mobility without shoulder seams or pleats. I think that its block was inspired by karate-gi, which certainly don't constrain motion or have pleats.

[Anesthetist]

Glad you got one @Chris. Do you have any other fit pics?
It is an awesome jacket but the shoulder does restrict movement on me. It is perfect everywhere but the shoulder feels snug despite the measurements.

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[Chris]

If I remember correctly, @Anesthetist, we have similar builds, though I'm heavier (6'0", 180 lbs).  I went with size XL, my usual size for IH shirts. I don't consider it especially constricting, but it's definitely a slim fit and it took a few wears to acclimate to that fit.  I can't imagine trying to squeeze into a Large, though.  If I could alter one thing, it would be the forearms- they're a bit snug on me, but I'll admit that it's because I'm a bit Popeye-ish.  I often have that issue with IH sleeves, usually just the cut and sewn stuff, but occasionally shirts and jackets.  Overall, I'm pretty happy with the jacket and I've been wearing it daily for the past few weeks- it rains virtually every day now, and the temperatures dropped below 85. Yay for Texas "winter"?