Wonder Looper
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Echoing everyone - thanks for the review.
Been eyeing this brand for a minute and always wondered how it'll last down the road. I tend to wear my shit to the ground lol.
I've always been skeptical of N&F too so hoping theybhave a separate trajectory. From what I've read and seen, seems like a good productI'm as ugly as you
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@weftyarn will have to get back to you on that front. Consider the first post above a first impressions piece. My guess would be that it feels more breathable so might be less sweaty than IH’s 11oz tees. Will give it a full day’s wear tomorrow.
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@J-IV will keep you posted on how it washes, etc.
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@EdH cool write up! Saw them
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I picked up another couple of these Ts in a size L on sale, one in white and one in their khaki (which is a dark, brown-green).
I’m happier with this fit for a fitted look compared to the XL. They were initially a little tight on the chest and in the pits, but loosened up nicely with a little wear. My sizing advice would be to size down one compared to your IH size in a UHF or 11oz T.
The white is not quite a pure white. It’s maybe four-fifths of the way to white compared to IH’s 11oz cream colour way. Here it is (at the back) against the cream IH 11oz T, and a white-but-well-worn formal shirt. Hopefully you can see a bit of difference.
I’ll try to remember to take a picture of the khaki once it’s out of the wash.
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I just ordered one of their Pima T’s yesterday when they were released. Did yours take long to deliver from WL?
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@Gulliver I ordered from JeansStore in the UK, not direct from WL, I'm afraid.
@jerkules There's not much in it, both feel like you're wearing the T-shirt equivalent of light-armour. On a breezy evening in April-ish, I remember thinking to myself that my forearms were feeling the wind, but my torso could barely feel a thing.
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I own one of their 701 gsm (21oz) French Terry sweat shirts, and man this thing is HEAVY! Love the quality of their stuff!
Can’t wait for their zipped hoodie in the fall.
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Just picked up one of their 701 gsm sweatshirts as well. On par with their heavyweight t’s which is pretty freaking nice.
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10/10 fit @flannel-slut I really like the chunky hem too.
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Thanks!! @jordanscollected me too man. Based off the measurements, I sized down one from their t’s and lucked out.
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I recently saw someone on IG being critical of WL, claiming that their 14oz t shirt fabric was identical to the 11oz fabric IH use for the 1501 and 1600s
Can anyone who has both concur?
“𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”
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@t4920 I believe their double heavyweight t shirt is listed at 12oz not 14. With that said, yes, they both have a similar feel/heft. I doubt WL is making false claims to the oz and discerning the difference between an ounce or two by hand is unlikely. In this case I would trust Bahzad over an IG post.
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@T4920 I am repeating a little info from a post regarding the 1501 and 1600 11 oz fabric. I don't own the Wonder Looper but i want one. I do own the 1501 and 1600 in the IH 11 oz fabric and what I have to compare it to is the Freenote 13 oz t-shirt.
I have garment numbers:
My Freenote cloth 13 oz. tee shirt weighs 295 grams
My Iron Heart 1600 11 oz. weighs 470 grams.
the Iron Heart has the chunky arm hems and neck hem, but those shouldn't affect the weight difference near as much as the results show.the IH shirt is about twice as thick and is just as densely woven if not more.
@EdH discussed above that the fabric has a different feeling and stretch than his 1501 11 oz fabric.
I'll conclude by saying that fabric weight doesn't tell the whole story, not even close, and it seems very apparent when you are comparing jersey fabrics.
Once I get a WL t-shirt i'll do a IRL comparison.
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@flannel-slut said in Wonder Looper:
In this case I would trust Bahzad over an IG post.
Completely valid. I just remember it being a long ass rant from a prominent user in the space that seemed well versed in quality clothing, IH in particular.. Found it interesting that he'd gone to such an effort to put out such a hit piece on WL and their business practices.
I've never handled anything by WL, so can't comment, but I appreciate the responses here from you and @jordanscollected
Also, that sweater is looking
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@jordanscollected @EdH bring up a great point with the tightness of weave and the 1501 being a denser fabric.
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@T4920 said in Wonder Looper:
claiming that their 14oz t shirt fabric was identical to the 11oz fabric IH use for the 1501 and 1600s
(My emphasis.)
Definitely not identical. The WL weave is looser and has a chunkier feel as a result (not that I've taken a set of callipers to them or anything, but just eyeballing it and in the hand it feels thicker). The IH weave is tighter IMO and doesn't 'give' as easily when you first put it on.
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@EdH - I totally agree. I have both WL and IH and agree with what you say. Love both but they are quite different.
