Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?
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Iron Heart is all about functionality and buttons allow for more flexibility to achieve a desired fit on bottoms. While I loved the chunky Talon zipper on my old 707 chinos, buttons are still the way to go when it comes to denim.
this is why I said relaxed fit. And there's like 300 other different pairs to choose from that have buttons already.
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@Filthy:
Iron Heart is all about functionality and buttons allow for more flexibility to achieve a desired fit on bottoms. While I loved the chunky Talon zipper on my old 707 chinos, buttons are still the way to go when it comes to denim.
this is why I said relaxed fit. And there's like 300 other different pairs to choose from that have buttons already.
To be exact, 76 different pairs (denim or non-denim) with buttons and 11 pairs with zippers to choose from
If the website's filtering function is accurate, that is.And amongst the ones that do have a zipper, either the thigh width or the front rise is too small for me.
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Is there a reason most of IH denim has buttons over zippers? Cost? Difficulty? Historical accuracy?
There are probably a few reasons but the only one that really matters is that Haraki-san wants it that way.
Otherwise I’d surmise that Levi’s having been the main design blueprint for most Japanese brands, and Levi’s being traditionally a button fly brand is a major factor.
Historical accuracy, for its own sake, is of little importance to Iron Heart in general, when compared to RMC amongst others.
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buttons allow for more flexibility to achieve a desired fit on bottoms.
I'm probably missing something but I don't understand this…
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zippers always manage to come partially undone for me. Even the ones that fold down and lock seem to unzip halfway depending how I'm sitting. I love the convenience of zips but buttons stay buttoned for me, so I prefer them.
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I also like the button fades on denim, which isn't something you get with zippers
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I also like the button fades on denim, which isn't something you get with zippers
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I also like the button fades on denim, which isn't something you get with zippers
More fade potential, that sounds right.
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zippers always manage to come partially undone for me. Even the ones that fold down and lock seem to unzip halfway depending how I'm sitting. I love the convenience of zips but buttons stay buttoned for me, so I prefer them.
The zipper never came open on it's own on my 822 double knee engineers or my overalls. I'd still be wearing those now if the thighs weren't so slim on them. I would have gotten a bigger size of those but the waist is way too big then.
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@Filthy:
zippers always manage to come partially undone for me. Even the ones that fold down and lock seem to unzip halfway depending how I'm sitting. I love the convenience of zips but buttons stay buttoned for me, so I prefer them.
The zipper never came open on it's own on my 822 double knee engineers or my overalls. I'd still be wearing those now if the thighs weren't so slim on them. I would have gotten a bigger size of those but the waist is way too big then.
To be fair, my comment had to do with non-IH jeans, but the brands were definitely reputable.
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@Giles I tried to scroll back but I got lost In other peoples reverse conversations and gave up. I recall seeing a photo of a sketchbook a couple months back that included a short sleeve CPO (green?). I would absolutely slam dunk one of those in my cart with rim shaking authority.
Is this a real future product? Any more info if so? Thanks for all you do on here, I can’t believe you take time away from your day job to please us forum fella’s and fell-ettes.
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Is this a real future product?
Those pictures generally come from Haraki-san’s sketchbook/iPad. He posts them on IG and they appear to be advanced stage design work. I say advanced stage because by far and away most of the things we see there become real the following season. So that bodes well for your short sleeved CPO.
I notice that IH will be doing sneak previews of their SS20 collection (that I assume that shirt is a part of), in Berlin and NYC shortly. Perhaps we’ll see more then.
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There was a wabash one about six years ago and about four years ago three came out together, two in chino and one in light denim. They were Japanese seasonal products and as @Paul9221 says didn’t do all that well. As a result IHUK won’t be pushing to do them again. Haraki-san may revisit them at some point though, so never say never.
@mister_m you can find them in the Extinct section if you want a look at how IH did them.
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@neph93 @Paul9221 I feel like chore coats can be really successful. stevenson's heartland jacket and tellason's coverall jacket sell really well for example, so I don't think it's just a matter of people not wanting chore coats. Imo, chore coats are drapey and look best when they have a simple profile, such as tonal stitching and minimal pouch-like pockets. They can't give off a tough-guy look. I think that the new 14oz SBG fabric could possibly make a really nice chore coat.
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@mister_m:
@neph93 @Paul9221 I feel like chore coats can be really successful. stevenson's heartland jacket and tellason's coverall jacket sell really well for example, so I don't think it's just a matter of people not wanting chore coats. Imo, chore coats are drapey and look best when they have a simple profile, such as tonal stitching and minimal pouch-like pockets. They can't give off a tough-guy look. I think that the new 14oz SBG fabric could possibly make a really nice chore coat.
I would love them to be successful! And while I understand that there's a profit to be had, I would like to think that IH is also about making great clothes, even if they're not fully appreciated in their time, so I hope IH does revisit them.
Also, I adore pockets. One of my favorite jackets is the OD M65 because it has like 8 pockets
