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Not that I will be getting one (Definitely won't), but it loses a ton of functionality and appeal as a "warm jacket" without a way to keep your hands warm.
Agree. I'm not getting one either but if I was, it would have to have hand warmer pockets. Completely defeats the purpose of this jacket, being lined and all.
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The color on that type III !!!!! Is that split steer? Damn that’s gorgeous.
Can we have the lining made out of the UHF flannel material G-san?
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With the crowd and saying yes to the hand warmers!
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I'm all for hand warmers, but only if it doesn't make the jacket bulky. I find I don't use them as much as I think I would, and a storm rider is not meant to be an extreme weather jacket anyways.
My preference is for a classic (short-ish) fit / length though. This is more important to me.
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@wdw:
Not that I will be getting one (Definitely won't), but it loses a ton of functionality and appeal as a "warm jacket" without a way to keep your hands warm.
Maybe it's just me, but I've never used handwarmer pockets in my life to warm my hands. That's why God invented gloves.
It's not just you. I'm in your camp, on this one. Although, it appears we are in the vast minority.
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Given the inevitability of pockets, would the opening be hidden behind the existing seam/stitching, or would it be set further back, like the Type 3s?
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I like the cleaner look of No hand-Warmers…
although my vote is null as I bought a pretty clean SExIH18 at the end of spring that's waiting for me to wear.. -
Gotta have pockets. No point in it otherwise IMO
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Aesthetically I’d say no hand warmers. I prefer the look and agree with @wdw that gloves are the thing. The duck type II (IHJ-3?) and IH-526j-od I own are better jackets because of their purist approach.
However I now also own the IH-533 and the IH-2526j and find myself appreciating the pockets as a place to put keys, telephone tobacco products when working/shopping and juggling fifty kids. So it wouldn’t be a deal breaker.
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No handwarmers IMO.
The majority is acting like it's a must have, but it's obviously not since the original, far cleaner designs lacked them.
The ancients, in their wisdom, realized that you have pockets for that already on your jeans and that a short rider's jacket would only be needlessly mucked up by the superfluous pockets:
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i have this habit of sticking both hands in pockets of jacket while wearing them and from my experience in wearing the 101J, i find a lack of pockets annoying. i use the jacket during the daytime in winter and having worn other jackets throughout winter with pockets, i wished the 101J come with pockets even though it may not have been the case with the OG design..
it's this thing where you're so used to doing while wearing a jacket and suddenly while wearing the 101J, you realise there's not pockets and you just need to stick your hands somewhere..
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Fair enough. Though I retain my stance on the matter, if the pockets could at least be hidden behind the outermost vertical seams, it would make for a much cleaner appearance that could perhaps satisfy both camps.
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i have this habit of sticking both hands in pockets of jacket while wearing them and from my experience in wearing the 101J, i find a lack of pockets annoying. i use the jacket during the daytime in winter and having worn other jackets throughout winter with pockets, i wished the 101J come with pockets even though it may not have been the case with the OG design..
it's this thing where you're so used to doing while wearing a jacket and suddenly while wearing the 101J, you realise there's not pockets and you just need to stick your hands somewhere..
Same. I have 2 of PBJ's type 2's and they lack interior pockets and exterior handwarmer pockets. I think they've recently added a few models with handwarmer pockets but mine are essentially useless without them.
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I see on the Lee site that they do some Riders with handwarmers, and to my mind it changes the neat, clean, v-shaped look quite significantly, making it baggier at the waist.
Assuming IH go with the vast majority here, let's hope they can make a better job of it, with stealth pockets hopefully hidden in the seams.
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Lee and Levi's both relented to popular opinion and added handwarmers to their riders over time, which is one reason I have vintage editions of them from each maker. So it's not a repro thing at all.
I just don't the use them, as on short jackets they are awkwardly high. So it's something superfluous to me that looks bad and gets worse with evo.
Contrast that versus a hoodie or a shacket where the pockets are lower and I actually use them. I love them on my IHSH-49, for example. Much, much lower than a traditional rider cut.
To each his own!
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No handwarmers imo.
