Extinct section is extinct
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My main use of it has always been to identify item numbers and make aftermarket purchases when a seller doesn’t provide good measurements. I recognize that this doesn’t really have any benefit to Iron Heart, but I sure will miss how easy it was to access this info.
The problem with relying on the forum, is that the majority of the older threads don’t have size charts. Or if they do, you have to wade through a lot of pages to find them.
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What @jordanscollected said
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I also use for referencing measurements and user reviews when purchasing from IH stockists or previously worn aftermarket. Noticed it wasn’t available and thought maybe it was a website glitch that was being resolved. This is unique to IH as far as I can tell and adds to the great customer experience imo. Hoping that some form of it can exist moving forward. However, keeping the great products coming should definitely be the priority.
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The only times I've used the extinct section were before listing an item for sale, looking up something I found on eBay or Grailed or whatever, or when trying to find the item number to search for more pics or details from forum posts.
I wouldn't need the extinct section if all IH items had the item number on the tag, though…
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:o what the- youbastards! what have you done? ???
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Simply put, I have used the extinct section hundreds of times for all the reasons already stated.
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I echo what pretty much everybody seems to be saying — I like it, I use it. Will miss it, hope there's some solution.
One thing sorta popped into my head when @mclaincausey mentioned a blogging platform. Mister Freedom does this sort of thing — Christophe Loiron has a Tumblr where he puts a lot of info regarding the development of products, etc. The company also has two Instagram accounts: one for the store, one for "archives."
I think there's probably something very doable among all the suggestions y'all have gotten today. At the end of the day, my experience has been that the extinct listings do contribute to a lot one-that-got-away feels, and most certainly this creates a lot of FOMO purchasing when new items are released.
In short, I think it drives buys. Just sayin'.
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Iron heart lives by extinct section. I need this old stuff to compare.
Could you belief you say to the children: hey the history of you country is extinct now?!
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I agree with what everyone else has already said. I went to look up the measurements of an extinct shirt about a week ago and couldn't find anything, I figured it was a glitch due to the site update.
Please bring it back !
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@Giles @Alex I thought about this a lot last night and we are all saying it would be nice to have back, but what hasn’t been addressed is the cost of keeping it. Would it be expensive to keep?
For example: I’m sure that most of us don’t mind spending $5.00 on a coffee, tea, beer, etc., but if we had to spend $500 for the same thing, we would quickly change our habits.
Just because we would like to save the information, doesn’t mean that you guys should pick up an expensive tab.
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It's a core part of what I wanted Iron Heart shopping experience to be like, when I came up with the idea. Having that sort of archive is one of the ways that sets us apart from other brands.
As I said above, it takes up a lot of resource to maintain etc. etc. So, one of the reasons we decided to turn it off, was to actually see if it was missed, we had no other way of determining that.
We know the answer now - thanks.
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I had an open tab on my browser of the IHJ-82 I was researching as Selfedge still has them in stock. They don't measure the IH way. I also looked up the forum page and read through that. This is typical of how I would use it fairly often.
So I noticed right away when my browser page wouldn't load and instead I got the message that it is temporarily off line and to send an email if you miss it.
I was going to shoot an email but then my day got busy and I figured the crew would be flooded with emails already. I wish I would have sent it now but here it is on the forum instead.
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Sorry to be a contrary voice, but I found the 'extinct' section unbearable. So often I would type in '634', or 'Western', and I would have to scroll through reams of shit I couldn't buy anymore before I could get to what I actually wanted - yes, I was aware of the filter options.
It's very clear why people are upset - understandable, even - but maybe the extinct, or OG models, deserve their own section on the forum.
As a forward facing, no bullshit brand, it makes sense to have the website clear of the pieces that are no longer in circulation to make room for the new leaves to flourish, so to speak.
Just my opinion x
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Well it certainly didn’t get in the way of the product pages. It was in an entirely separate section of the website. It would be really hard to confuse the extinct product pages for active products.
Anyway it sounds like the matter is settled.
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Sorry to be a contrary voice, but I found the 'extinct' section unbearable. So often I would type in '634', or 'Western', and I would have to scroll through reams of shit I couldn't buy anymore before I could get to what I actually wanted - yes, I was aware of the filter options.
It's very clear why people are upset - understandable, even - but maybe the extinct, or OG models, deserve their own section on the forum.
As a forward facing, no bullshit brand, it makes sense to have the website clear of the pieces that are no longer in circulation to make room for the new leaves to flourish, so to speak.
Just my opinion x
…I am drawn to IH because I view it as timeless classics. What IH made 10 years ago looks as good as the stuff made today. If IH were to move towards fast fashion, I feel it would hurt the overall brand and ethos. I may be misunderstanding your post, but the extinct items are the foundation of where IH is today and should not be forgotten.
Just my perspective.
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Sorry to be a contrary voice, but I found the 'extinct' section unbearable. So often I would type in '634', or 'Western', and I would have to scroll through reams of shit I couldn't buy anymore before I could get to what I actually wanted - yes, I was aware of the filter options.
It's very clear why people are upset - understandable, even - but maybe the extinct, or OG models, deserve their own section on the forum.
As a forward facing, no bullshit brand, it makes sense to have the website clear of the pieces that are no longer in circulation to make room for the new leaves to flourish, so to speak.
Just my opinion x
…I am drawn to IH because I view it as timeless classics. What IH made 10 years ago looks as good as the stuff made today. If IH were to move towards fast fashion, I feel it would hurt the overall brand and ethos. I may be misunderstanding your post, but the extinct items are the foundation of where IH is today and should not be forgotten.
Just my perspective.
I don't think they can or ever will be. But the only way we will continue to grow is to make the website as user friendly as possible to our new family members - you were one once. So they will get as excited about the SLBs, or the Indigo Blacks, or the Chore coats in the same way that you did about the pieces you love and cherished. I appreciate that we are all able to have friendly disagreements. It shows how much we all care.
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Well it certainly didn’t get in the way of the product pages. It was in an entirely separate section of the website. It would be really hard to confuse the extinct product pages for active products.
Anyway it sounds like the matter is settled.
Like I said, when you typed in a product, all the iterations of that product - predominantly extinct - would be at the top of the page. So not as hard as you claim. At least in my experience, anyway.
Stay well, friend.