IH-6634-BRN - 14oz Heavy Corduroy Straight Cut Pants - Brown
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Thanks Anne ( @sabergirl ), your comment was extremely well timed.
I have been measuring and remeasuring my pair from the last run along with my snug 463s trying to make a decision.
Both are waist size 34s (my usual IH size), but the cords had a button malfunction (aka I tried to manually stretch so I could button the waist button and tore the button out of the fabric). That said it when I had repaired, they were able to reposition the button to give me some more breathing room and actually button up all the way. All said and done, they are measuring at 35 on the dot and while I can wear them with relative ease, they are snug and do not give no matter how many times I’ve worn them (30–50 ish wears).
My 463s are coming in at around 34, and while I do wrestle to button the top button, they tend to not give me the same bite in the middle as the cords at the end of the day despite being almost an inch smaller in the waist.
So I think it’s important to note that not only is the corduroy not going to give you stretch, but it is also likely thicker in the waist than denim, so while it may measure bigger, it feels tighter (kinda like blanket or quilt lined shackets).
So my dilemma, and this comes out of their being a size 35, do I go with 35 or 36…..my standard 34 is an absolute no go for sure given they are coming right in at 34 noting how tight the originals were and they also measured right at 34.
35s are coming in right where my original pair got to after the button repair and how I’m wearing now - tight but wearable with maybe tshirt or thermal tucked in…. I don’t think I could button if I layered a tee and thermal and tried to tuck under a flannel.
36s seem like the most reasonable choice given the sizing points above but I’ve been afraid a 36 (measuring in the waist right at 36) with a full extra inch will just be too much. I can’t remember the last time I’ve had a good fit with and IH pant/jeans in 36…it’s been strictly 34 for years (I even went 33 on a pair of 634UHRs last year). And I’ve definitely had jeans that were just too big in the waist and even with hot washes and belts they just seem too big. But maybe with the texture and weight of corduroy it won’t feel as loose in the waist.
So I have been back and forth and back and forth on which size to go with since they posted the measurements. It’s been an existential crisis over here this afternoon
But, I feel like Anne just sealed it for me. As much as a 36 just intuitively feels wrong, the measurements and collective experience here are just telling me that’s the way to go. And I have always told myself if another pair of the original run came up in a 36 that I’d grab in a heartbeat. I don’t think I’m gonna want these to feel tight out of the bag. A bit snug, sure, but tight is going to likely spell trouble as these won’t give and stretch like denim or other cotton fabrics.
Thanks for listening to my sizing rant here and Anne thanks for the feedback on your experience…..I feel like I can order less anxiously on Monday
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@sabergirl You've got it!
Tag 34 (rarely 35) for me in IH denim. Tag 36 for me all day in these along with my IH-730.
Thanks for this Graham @Graham ! I missed you initially posting it as I was writing my sizing dissertation or I would have given you a should out too!
I know you all will be busy but any chance you could get a pic with the 35s (if they fit) and the 36s before they go live? I’m 99% going 36, but would love a visual if possible
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@Dstauffer You're welcome.
I will try my absolute best on Monday to get you some photos.
I could button the tag 35 and I would wear jeans that fitted like that knowing that they would stretch but I would never have been happy with these in a 35. I also felt them a little slim in the thigh and leg on the 35 with them not feeling too 634-y if that makes sense. I'd go 36 for comfort which is exactly how these are intended.
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Don’t worry about the pictures brother, that comment is all I needed to confirm the decision to go with a 36. You just put all my fears to bed and I don’t need a photo to show me what you just told me ….And I did feel kinda bad asking because I know it’s gonna be super busy for you all.
Really appreciate your help and I’m super excited about how these came out and can’t wait to drool over your product pics monday.
Thanks again for responding on a weekend so I don’t have to try and sort out Monday before the drop. Have a great rest of your weekend!
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Thanks @sabergirl and @Graham for your advice and @Dstauffer for sharing your inner turmoil
Looks like 35 might be the answer for me.
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@Graham so the brown is more like a carhartt/Dickie’s brown. Good to know and thanks for the posting re:sizing. I’m torn as I’ve lost weight and now can wear 34’s comfortably in denim and thinking I may go for a 35 in these. It’s great to read the discussion on sizing and everyone’s experiences.
Time to pull out the tape…
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IH Crew…favour request (please, pretty please, pretty pretty please...) Can we please get a picture of the Beige and Brown Cords overlayed? I would like to see how much colour variation there is between the two pants (for research purposes/justification...)
Hello IH crew, if you could add some brown duck to that pic for colour comparison, that'll be golden.
Thanks so much
Peter -
love the IH-731 cut (the new relaxed style) in 34. I like chinos and cords loose, as in I can easily get a fist in between waistband and six pack ;). As another verified data point, with IH-888s-21od in 34 I can fit 2 cans of beer between waistband and six pack. Prob a bit looser than perfect, but than I dislike tight and top block and thigh size for mobility.
Is the fit close enough to go with same size as IH-731? Front rise is one inch less, rear and waist is the same and neither shrinks.
Lastly, a comparison of the beige and brown side by side would be superb. Leaning brown if ducky…
Andreas
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Thanks so much @Graham
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@Graham fantastic… I only wished this helped me make my decision. Thought I was leaning towards the beige but after seeing this pic I'm really torn!
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@Graham Much appreciated. Very informative.